Socialism Explained | Part 2


I think if you break socialism down into
a couple different dichotic to kind of parse out what type of
socialism we mean because of the relatively sorted pass of socialism I
think the easiest way to go about it is kind of looking at it through a couple
different dichotomies and maybe more easily defined what exactly we’re
talking about because I’ve had it happen where I’m talking to a socialist and
partway through the conversation they end up saying you know well that’s not
even the kind of socialism I’m talking about and actually I’ve seen two people
who were socialists talking to each other and realizing suddenly that they
both are talking about two different kinds of socialism as well so I think
it’s kind of helpful to look at the kind of socialism that you know is being
proposed in the United States currently non market socialism it’s a type of
socialism where they do away with money and with the profit incentive and
essentially what you have is every good is given a certain value and it’s not
really value but we’ll just call it that and this is called a calculation of kind
it’s a way of looking at every single good and determining what exactly its
value is that you can you know exchange that with for other goods market
socialism still keeps profit motives sometimes and it also keeps money and so
you can still exchange money for a Wonka bar and you know the person at the store
can still potentially make a profit based off of their labor to produce that
Wonka bar this is what we’re going to be looking at because non market socialism
has mostly been debunked by economists who have basically shown that if you’re
calculating the price of a Wonka bar that could be a pretty straightforward
task but when you’re actually looking at an entire economy where you have
hundreds of thousands or millions of goods on the market it’s very difficult
to do away with pricing and the profit incentive and just to simply calculate
the exchange rate between all of these different goods so essentially what
we’re looking at is again market socialism because that’s what most
people are proposing because nobody’s actually proposing that we get rid of
money or anything like that another important dichotomy to look at
is national socialism and international socialism national socialism everybody
knows an example of that or at least a nominal example of that and that would
be the Nazi Party Nazi was simply a shortened name for the National
Socialist German Workers Party and whether or not you
agree that you know Nazism was actually a socialistic movement that’s up for
debate and I don’t really care a whole lot but anyways that would be
particularly nationalistic socialism that looks like at you know particularly
taking over the means of production of a particular nation for the betterment of
just that nation and not necessarily the individual classes that are involved
then there is internationalist socialism which basically determines that there’s
not really a difference between the nations and really it’s it’s largely
aimed at benefiting the proletariat as a global class not just at the particular
workers in one nation most socialism that you’re going to see outside of you
know Nazism is going to fall into this category where you look at other
countries that try to attempt to build a socialist economy they’re going to be
more in line with international socialism so one other dichotomy that I
just really quickly want to touch on there is a huge difference between
socialism or democratic socialism and what’s called a social democracy social
democracy is what Obama falls into what Denmark falls into anything that
basically is a welfare state and you know the thing that came to be known as
Obamacare are not necessarily in the socialist vein per se so looking at
socialism who actually came up with the word socialism well he was a French
philosopher and his name was on Ray’s days say Simone Andre day say Simone I
don’t speak French anyways that what he proposed was
socialism as a counterpoint to what he called individualism which he said was
the idea that came out of the Enlightenment that if each individual
person acts freely without reference to the greater society as a whole now
within this particular framework this is maybe what you might hear a lot of
people talk about when they say oh well you know I’m a socialist because I
believe in you know the greater betterment of the society and I believe
people should just help each other now that just basically means you believe in
solidarity I think that’s a much better word for it and it doesn’t mean that you
subscribe to socialist economic policies or socialist philosophy as socialism was
initially set up as a counterpoint to individualism it later on began to take
on a certain other effect and was subsumed into socialist philosophy and
one particular point along a progression from what was called capitalism into
what was called communism this was especially prevalent in Karl Marx and
Friedrich Engels work Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto and other
particular philosophy worked on by both of them an interesting point to note is
that the word capitalism actually was invented by socialists as a pejorative
to lambast anybody who they saw is exploiting the labor of the proletariat
and basically using profit to garner for themselves undue rewards now there’s a
ton of other socialist philosophers you know early on who kind of helped form it
but the problem is it’s we don’t have enough time to actually go over all of
those one person who’s interesting to note is Charles Frey yay he also
invented the word feminism and we’re definitely gonna be covering him a lot
in future videos when we’re talking about feminism so one other thing that
we should also point out is basically the difference between communism and
socialism that’s something that a lot of people kind of tend to mix up especially
when you’re just kind of you know shouting at people and using pejoratives
that are within reach and you just call somebody a communist or a socialist
there is some understandable confusion here because throughout the history of
socialism different parts of Europe actually use different words because
like for example on the continent when people called themselves socialists in
England itself communism took on kind of a negative meaning and so communists
they’re actually called themselves socialists even though they were
communists so that’s partially where some of the confusion comes from
basically socialism is an economic philosophy whereas communism is a
metaphysical and a historical philosophy the difference between socialism and
communism is that socialism is simply a way of arranging an economy it’s
essentially a philosophy that looks at you know the economics of a nation or of
the world communism on the other hand is a metaphysical and a historical approach
at looking at the world and because of that it looks at every single aspect of
one’s life not just the economic aspects so Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels and
especially in Das Kapital and other works they lay out how essentially where
they currently were in a state of capitalism the proletariat
would eventually rise up and through revolution end up in a state of
communism now prior to that they anticipated that not every proletariat
revolution was going to end at the terminus of communism and so in fact
some of them would you know start a revolution but not actually go all the
way and they would have to wait for a further revolution down the road
stopping at this intermediate point would be socialism where they
revolutionize their economy but they have not yet changed the historical way
of looking at the world or even their metaphysical way of looking at how
society together interacts with itself so I hope you found that entertaining or
accidentally informative if I did leave anything out go ahead and let me know
I’m actually genuinely curious if you think that there is something important
that I did leave out because there are so many different aspects to this and
different opinions on the minutia that you know often times trying to come
across this this whole breadth of philosophy of socialism in a short
amount of time can be difficult I hope what people really got out of this is
simply that basic idea that the collective ownership of the means of
production and what exactly that means that those people who are either working
in the factory or those people who are in the same nation as that factory or
whatever is producing those goods those people are going to be reaping the
benefits of that as opposed to somebody who takes the initiative to start the
factory and to use the labor of the individual workers in combination with
some type of machinery or you know whatever the means of production are and
to produce some amount of good




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