Senator Bernie Sanders Makes The Case For Socialism | All In | MSNBC



we must recognize that in the 21st century in the wealthiest country in the history of the world economic rights are human rights and that is what I mean by democratic socialism presidential candidate Bernie Sanders give you a full-throated defense of democratic socialism yesterday explicitly laying out why in his view it's the only way to defeat Donald Trump Sanders remains the top tier of Democratic candidates and Republicans who think many voters will Blanche at the very label socialists keep running around saying that they would love to be running against a guy who was a real dyed-in-the-wool socialist a lot of people aren't scared of that word anymore recent poll found that four and 10 Americans say they would prefer living in a socialist country including 55 percent of women between 1854 Sanders shouldn't have a problem getting those votes it's the folks not in that group the speech seemed to be directed to in joining me now is Senator Bernie Sanders twenty20 presidential candidate you're right here's my first question why does it matter at the end of the day the term like the agendas the agenda the programs he had program people might like it they might not like you're waving your finger at me but what why does why does the term matter why even fight about it okay I will tell you why Chris you know I'm thinking that over the last 40 45 years there have been 20 some-odd elections and every candidate who runs for office said we need to improve healthcare we need to improve education we need to improve the environment but not a lot happens today the average American worker is earning an inflation accounted for dollars the same amount of money as a worker did 43 years ago today you have massive levels of income and wealth inequality three families owning more wealth than the bottom half of America now why does that happen is it that the candidates are liars I don't think so not in most cases many cases they are very decent people trying to do their best but what we have to recognize and the reason that I use the term democratic socialism is because I believe that we need policies that protect working families and not just the 1% but in addition to that it is imperative to understand why so little progress is being made economically and that is and I think my campaign is unique in saying this if you want real change in America if you want health care for all if you want real climate change reform if you want education opportunities available for all we have got to take on the ruling class of America right that is Wall Street the drug companies the insurance companies the fossil fuel industry the military industrial complex and what I am saying is that I as president can't do it alone the only way we bring about substantial change in this country is when millions of people stand up and fight for that change and that's why our campaign is called us not me because no president no matter how well-intentioned could do it alone well let me ask you this though so so one of the sort of touchstone points in the speech is about FDR in the New Deal and the economic Bill of Rights and again I would agree with you that but his critics called him a socialist and in by today's term do you be called social but FDR didn't call himself a socialist the socialist of the time said he was peddling pale pink pills and he was basically a sellout capitalist he probably did that for a reason right I mean that was a political judgment by FDR about his own efficacy why does the word matter more than the agenda because it is imperative for people to understand look a lot of people are gonna say a lot of good things but for two reasons I think the word democratic socialism is relevant because if you are serious about a defeating Trump's authoritarianism which by the way is an international phenomenon you have to do what Roosevelt did and say you know what I am taking on the ruling class and you remember I mentioned this yesterday and these people hate me and I welcome their hatred in other words you cannot go forward unless we are prepared to take on incredibly powerful special interest there is no shortcut around that and second of all when I use the word democratic socialism what I mean is not that a we got to improve the health care system I mean that economic rights are human rights people are entitled to health care to education to a clean environment to retirement security to decent housing this is not just some abstract idea freedom of speech is what America is about I believe that economic rights must also be about what America is about and by the way you mentioned in your preface that Republicans are just chomping at the bit that's what they say they say they're very excited about this and that you're gonna scare off people and this they would love nothing more than to run against so just take a look at some of the polls there we're beating Trump in some cases by 10 points but the point here it is absolute except that okay but Minh make Chris is that we live in many respects in a socialist society today if the definition of that is massive group of people yeah problem right now is you have as you know Martin Luther King jr. talked about we got socialism for the rich but rugged free in the bitch free enterprise yep for for working people we have to turn that around on its head you you just said something you talked a fair amount about sort of international authoritarianism as a sorta international force and and I thought about it a little bit in the context of the president said yesterday about you know welcoming a Russian help but your first question is what is your position if you were offered help from a foreign government or foreign adversary would you call the FBI is that your position it is illegal so yes I would and I guess my second question is are you worried about that aspect in this campaign a you know we talked about the top it's not just Russia but like the Saudis for instance you've been very outspoken about the us-backed Saudi war in Yemen the Saudis have tons of interest and a lot of investment in Donald Trump being a president Eights he's given them free rein is a live issue to you the fact that if Bernie Sanders were the nominee like Saudis probably would like to see you and defeated you think so yeah I would agree with you look here is what I think we should be very nervous about above and beyond your legitimate concerns and that is we have a president who doesn't live in the Constitution or doesn't understand the Constitution thinks he is above the law and I think that what we are likely to see I hope I'm wrong but we are likely to see is a president who will merge the agencies of the federal government and his position as president and combined that with his position as a candidate and we should be very mindful of that and I think we should all be watchful as to how we proceeds well I guess that's the question is what to be done about I think you're I mean that that seems like a live issue we've saw today that the the letter from the office special counsel of Hatch Act violations which is design do you think that is I mean what I every do you think that's important actually that's not determining and it's not just miss Conway you know it is I don't think you know I don't think in his own mind he sees much different he's a candidate he's a president what's the problem I'll use all of the resources you can to win in addition to the fact that he is a pathological liar and all and that he will have the backing of a lot of very very wealthy people in this country including his own personal wealth so yeah it is in my view a real issue of concern but it comes down let me respond and tell you what I think the antidote is and the antidote is a strong progressive message that says to the working people of this country and to the young people that now is the time in this unprecedented moment in American history for people to become involved in the political process and you go I go back to the word democratic socialism it's not the same old same old yeah we got to stand up we got to fight back and we have to beat oligarchy and we have to defeat authoritarianism and Donald Trump as well all right senator Bernie Sanders who's a senator front twenty five presidential candidate who will meet on that debate stage one of the two nights thirteen days from now thanks for making time thank you hey there I'm Chris Hayes from MSNBC thanks for watching MSNBC on YouTube if you want to keep up to date with the videos we're putting out you can click subscribe just below me or click over on this list to see lots of other great videos




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  1. Bernie the Red wants goverment to take over everything. Works great in N. Korea, Venezuela, and Cuba, Doesn't it Bernie the Red. Go back to Moscow where you celebrated your honeymoon and STAY THERE!

  2. It's Bernie or Trump wins. Period…. it's even more obvious than when Clinton ran. Impeach Trump / Elect Bernie.

  3. I hope its Trump against Bernie for 2020! Trump is going to eat Bernie up, it's going to be hilarious! Trump's going to Win!

  4. Bernie Sanders – the guy who never held a real (non government) job in his life – wants to dictate what we will pay in taxes. It's absurd to think someone so lazy could have that power.

  5. That title says it all. I use to like MSNBC, but I have realized that during elections cycles you guys become too polarized against progressives. Democratic socialism is not the same thing as Socialism.

  6. For those of you who think socialism is the answer
    "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
    or
    "Show me a man and I'll show you a crime."
    (Russian doesn't have definite and indefinite articles as such; delightful ambiguity, no?)

    —Marshal of the Soviet Union Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria/Лаврентий Павлович Берия/ლავრენტი პავლეს ძე ბერია (1899-1953)
    chief of the NKVD (People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs) under Josef Stalin.
    Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics!
    SOCIALIST!
    "Socialism is the tree, Communism is the fruit, watered by blood." (look it up)

  7. For those of you who think socialism is the answer
    "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
    or
    "Show me a man and I'll show you a crime."
    (Russian doesn't have definite and indefinite articles as such; delightful ambiguity, no?)

    —Marshal of the Soviet Union Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria/Лаврентий Павлович Берия/ლავრენტი პავლეს ძე ბერია (1899-1953)
    chief of the NKVD (People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs) under Josef Stalin.
    Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics!
    SOCIALIST!
    "Socialism is the tree, Communism is the fruit, watered by blood." (look it up)

  8. For those of you who think socialism is the answer
    "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
    or
    "Show me a man and I'll show you a crime."
    (Russian doesn't have definite and indefinite articles as such; delightful ambiguity, no?)

    —Marshal of the Soviet Union Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria/Лаврентий Павлович Берия/ლავრენტი პავლეს ძე ბერია (1899-1953)
    chief of the NKVD (People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs) under Josef Stalin.
    Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics!
    SOCIALIST!
    "Socialism is the tree, Communism is the fruit, watered by blood." (look it up)

  9. So pursue Democrats win in 20 2025 and becomes a socialist country once that government runs out of money where will American citizens find refuge which country will take American citizens documented or not as refugees Russia China Middle East? Because the wealthy country will no longer be wealthy who is going below the United States Bernie will be 12 feet on the ground by them does he care

  10. He's not even a bloody socialist. Stop feeding into this BS right wing framing. Its Democratic Socialism. Completely different thing in the way of political terms. He doesnt want to completely eliminate a free market system and have complete government take over. Thats not a thing. When you say socialism, people in this country are too stupid to connect the dots…. they immediately think Venezuela or marxism….. things that no one ever suggests we emulate…. Bernie Sanders wants a scandiavian-style democratic-socialist system. A hybrid of capitalism and socialism….. with a healthy free market and a strong social safety net. Which is essentially what we already have…. we just have the crappiest version of it and it has been completely corrupted by big money.

  11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2d3DMC6qyg
    https://reason.com/2018/10/18/civil-liberties-and-socialism-dont-mix

  12. Oil companies pay no Federal taxes but expect our military to protect their profits. Socialism Oil company style

  13. If you take the derivative of Capitalism you come out with Corporate Socialism. It’s time to re-work this formula so it benefits the working class people of this county. #Bernie2020

  14. I we would learn to live within our means, we could make it just fine. We're complaining about not affording healthcare while paying $800 for a cell phone. Not everyone needs to go to college. That's a b.s. myth we've been fed for years.

  15. Mr Magoo! ya can't fix a mo&&% F^^$#ing thing. :You've been on the public payroll for years with ideas dating back to Soviet Style socialism. That's all! You have no accomplishments, as do many, many of your highly misguided supporters. Good luck selling this to the American public.

  16. Healthcare results from around the world prove that universal healthcare works better than the private for profit only USA model.
    And at 1/2 the cost per capita of the USA.
    So sad, so much sad pathetic winning.
    Update! The USA 35th! Down one. Behind Cuba!
    Bloomberg released it's 2019 World Health Index
    Spain #1, Australia #7, Canada #16, Cuba #30, USA #35
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-24/spain-tops-italy-as-world-s-healthiest-nation-while-u-s-slips
    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canada-ranks-16th-in-world-s-healthiest-nations-index-1.1219071

  17. Like everything, nothing is black or white. The degrees of socialism vary from the USA where they have police, firefighters, roads, schools, military, social security and Medicaid but no universal healthcare; to social democracy in Canada, Europe, New Zealand and Australia where there are more social programs like universal healthcare, more vacation and no union busting. So why do some people bring up the boogieman of extreme socialism or Marxist communism when the proposal or policy is only for improved social systems? The argument is a looney disingenuous rightwing talking point from the USA where they are afraid that any government activity reduces "freedom", such as universal healthcare prevents the freedom of dying in the streets.

  18. the wealthy are not voting against their own interests longterm if they support less of a chasm between the poor and the wealthy, though many of them do not see that. Monopolization is boring and less innovative and more lonely for the oligarch– or husband in a sexist society whose partner is a 2nd class citizen– or for the white slaveowner deprived of equal companionship with an equal human being by the racist policies and prejudices in such a society and in their own mind. The more powerful also benefit profoundly when humans are recognized as the equals they are and not subjugated and decimated by racism, sexism, or economic slavery.

  19. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/debunking-deficit-hysteria-stephanie-kelton-podcast-transcript-ncna1003301

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