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>>>REPUBLICAN LEADERS IN THREE>>>REPUBLICAN LEADERS IN THREE STATES HAVE VOTED TO CANCEL 2020 STATES HAVE VOTED TO CANCEL 2020 PRIMARIES AND CAUCUSES. PRIMARIES AND CAUCUSES. GOP PARTIES IN SOUTH CAROLINA, GOP PARTIES IN SOUTH CAROLINA, NEVADA, AND KANSAS ANNOUNCED NEVADA, AND KANSAS ANNOUNCED OVER THE WEEKEND THAT ALL OVER THE WEEKEND THAT ALL REPUBLICAN DELEGATES WILL BE REPUBLICAN DELEGATES WILL BE COMMITTED TO PRESIDENT TRUMP IN COMMITTED TO PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION CYCLE. THE UPCOMING ELECTION CYCLE. REPUBLICANS IN ARIZONA WILL REPUBLICANS IN ARIZONA WILL REPORTEDLY MAKE A FORMAL REPORTEDLY MAKE A FORMAL DECISION AS EARLY AS TODAY. DECISION AS EARLY AS TODAY. AMONG THE REASONS FOR THE STATES AMONG THE REASONS FOR THE STATES DECISIONS TO NIX PRIMARIES AND DECISIONS TO NIX PRIMARIES AND CAUCUSES INCLUDE THE EXPENSES CAUCUSES INCLUDE THE EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH PUTTING ON AN ASSOCIATED WITH PUTTING ON AN ELECTION WHEN THE INCUMBENT ELECTION WHEN THE INCUMBENT ALREADY HAS SIGNIFICANT PARTY ALREADY HAS SIGNIFICANT PARTY SUPPORT. SUPPORT. CANCELING PRIMARIES AND CAUCUSES CANCELING PRIMARIES AND CAUCUSES HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE BY THE HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE BY THE PARTY OF THE PRESIDENTIAL PARTY OF THE PRESIDENTIAL INCUMBENT, BUT IN THE PAST THAT INCUMBENT, BUT IN THE PAST THAT HAS MOSTLY BEEN WHEN THERE HAS HAS MOSTLY BEEN WHEN THERE HAS BEEN NO REAL PRIMARY CHALLENGER. BEEN NO REAL PRIMARY CHALLENGER. INTERESTING. INTERESTING. JOINING US NOW, ONE OF THOSE JOINING US NOW, ONE OF THOSE PRIMARY CHALLENGERS, THE LATEST PRIMARY CHALLENGERS, THE LATEST REPUBLICAN TO LAUNCH A BID TO REPUBLICAN TO LAUNCH A BID TO TAKE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP IN 2020. TAKE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP IN 2020. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MARK SANFORD. CANDIDATE MARK SANFORD. HE’S SERVED SOUTH CAROLINA AS HE’S SERVED SOUTH CAROLINA AS GOVERNOR AND A U.S. CONGRESSMAN. GOVERNOR AND A U.S. CONGRESSMAN.>>HEY, MARK, GREAT TO SEE YOU>>HEY, MARK, GREAT TO SEE YOU HERE. HERE. THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING ON THE THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING ON THE SHOW. SHOW. WHY DON’T WE START WITH THE BIG WHY DON’T WE START WITH THE BIG QUESTION, WHY ARE YOU RUNNING QUESTION, WHY ARE YOU RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT? FOR PRESIDENT?>>I’M RUNNING BECAUSE THINK WE>>I’M RUNNING BECAUSE THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A REPUBLICAN. REPUBLICAN. I THINK THAT WE’VE LOTT OURST OU I THINK THAT WE’VE LOTT OURST OU AS A PARTY. AS A PARTY. JOE, YOU WERE THERE IN THE EARLY JOE, YOU WERE THERE IN THE EARLY ’90s AND WE ACTUALLY MADE ’90s AND WE ACTUALLY MADE IMPROVEMENTS WITH REGARD TO THIS IMPROVEMENTS WITH REGARD TO THIS ISSUE OF DEBT AND DEFICITS AND ISSUE OF DEBT AND DEFICITS AND GOVERNMENT SPENDING. GOVERNMENT SPENDING. WE SAW A BALANCED BUDGET DURING WE SAW A BALANCED BUDGET DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. THAT TIME PERIOD. THAT HAS GONE BY THE WAYSIDE. THAT HAS GONE BY THE WAYSIDE. I THINK THAT ECONOMIC MATTERS I THINK THAT ECONOMIC MATTERS MATTER. MATTER. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE GOT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE GOT HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WAY IN WHICH WE ENGAGE WITH THE WAY IN WHICH WE ENGAGE WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD. REST OF THE WORLD. TRADE AND FREE TRADE USED TO BE TRADE AND FREE TRADE USED TO BE A LINCHPIN, WHAT THE REPUBLICAN A LINCHPIN, WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS ABOUT. PARTY WAS ABOUT. IT TOO HAS GONE BY THE WAYSIDE. IT TOO HAS GONE BY THE WAYSIDE. I WOULD SAY THAT WE’VE GOT TO I WOULD SAY THAT WE’VE GOT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT INSTITUTIONS AND SORT OF A INSTITUTIONS AND SORT OF A CONSERVATIVE FRAMEWORK FOR THE CONSERVATIVE FRAMEWORK FOR THE BY THAT WHICH THE BODIES TALK TO BY THAT WHICH THE BODIES TALK TO EACH OTHER. EACH OTHER. WE’VE LOST THAT OR ARE IN THE WE’VE LOST THAT OR ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LOSING THAT. PROCESS OF LOSING THAT. WHEN THE PRESIDENT GOES OUT AND WHEN THE PRESIDENT GOES OUT AND SAYS THE FED CHAIR SAN ENEMY OF SAYS THE FED CHAIR SAN ENEMY OF THE STATE, WE’RE CHALLENGING THE STATE, WE’RE CHALLENGING INSTITUTIONS IN A DANGEROUS WAY. INSTITUTIONS IN A DANGEROUS WAY. AND THAT’S BEEN THE GLUE THAT’S AND THAT’S BEEN THE GLUE THAT’S HELD THE BALANCE OF WHAT THE HELD THE BALANCE OF WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS NUT ’PLACE. FOUNDING FATHERS NUT ’PLACE. AND WE’VE GOT HAVE A AND WE’VE GOT HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT TONE. CONVERSATION ABOUT TONE. YOU CAN SAY THE RIGHT THING BUT YOU CAN SAY THE RIGHT THING BUT IN THE WRONG WAY YOU CAN TURN IN THE WRONG WAY YOU CAN TURN FOLKS OFF. FOLKS OFF. YOU SAW THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU SAW THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ABOUT 50 YEARS THE DEMOCRATS IN ABOUT 50 YEARS THE DEMOCRATS WON BECAUSE A WHOLE LOT OF WON BECAUSE A WHOLE LOT OF SOCCER MOMS AND YOUNG FOLKS SOCCER MOMS AND YOUNG FOLKS SAID, WAIT A MINUTE WHAT’S GOING SAID, WAIT A MINUTE WHAT’S GOING ON HERE? ON HERE? DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO ME. DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO ME.>>YOU KNOW, MARK, THE THING IS,>>YOU KNOW, MARK, THE THING IS, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO REMIND PEOPLE, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO REMIND PEOPLE, YOU BROUGHT IT UP, BUT WHEN WE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, BUT WHEN WE GOT TO CONGRESS EVERYBODY WAS GOT TO CONGRESS EVERYBODY WAS SAYING WE COULD NEVER BALANCE SAYING WE COULD NEVER BALANCE THE BUDGET. THE BUDGET. WE BALANCED THE BUDGET FOR THE WE BALANCED THE BUDGET FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A GENERATION. FIRST TIME IN A GENERATION. WE BALANCED IT FOUR YEARS IN A WE BALANCED IT FOUR YEARS IN A ROW FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A ROW FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A CENTURY. CENTURY. WE PASSED WELFARE REFORM, WE CUT WE PASSED WELFARE REFORM, WE CUT TAXES, WE ACTUALLY REFORMED TAXES, WE ACTUALLY REFORMED MEDICARE, EXTEND ITS LIFE BY MEDICARE, EXTEND ITS LIFE BY SEVEN YEARS BY MAKING SOME SEVEN YEARS BY MAKING SOME DIFFICULT CHOICES. DIFFICULT CHOICES. THAT’S WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT’S WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT CONSERVATIVES DID. CONSERVATIVES DID. THAT’S WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE THAT’S WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY STOOD FOR. REPUBLICAN PARTY STOOD FOR. AND YET, YOU’RE RUNNING AGAINST AND YET, YOU’RE RUNNING AGAINST A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT WHO’S A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT WHO’S GIVEN US THE BIGGEST DEFICITS GIVEN US THE BIGGEST DEFICITS EVER, CERTAINLY IN AN EXPANSIVE EVER, CERTAINLY IN AN EXPANSIVE ECONOMY. ECONOMY. THE BIGGEST FEDERAL DEBT EVER. THE BIGGEST FEDERAL DEBT EVER. THE BIGGEST FEDERAL SPENDING THE BIGGEST FEDERAL SPENDING BUDGET EVER. BUDGET EVER. A BUDGET THAT EVEN RAND PAUL A BUDGET THAT EVEN RAND PAUL SAID A WOUMCOUPLE OF MONTHS AGO SAID A WOUMCOUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THE BIGGEST BOONDOGGLE IN THE THE BIGGEST BOONDOGGLE IN THE HISTORY OF THE REPUBLIC. HISTORY OF THE REPUBLIC. AND HE’S GOT — BECAUSE HE’S A AND HE’S GOT — BECAUSE HE’S A PROTECTIONIST, BECAUSE HE PROTECTIONIST, BECAUSE HE DOESN’T BELIEVE IN FREE MARKETS, DOESN’T BELIEVE IN FREE MARKETS, FREE TRADE, HE’S GOT THIS FREE TRADE, HE’S GOT THIS $16 BILLION SOCIALIST SCHEME TO $16 BILLION SOCIALIST SCHEME TO PAY OFF THE BIGGEST AGRICULTURAL PAY OFF THE BIGGEST AGRICULTURAL INTERESTS, INDUSTRIAL INTERESTS INTERESTS, INDUSTRIAL INTERESTS IN AMERICA. IN AMERICA. HOW DO YOU RUN AGAINST A GUY HOW DO YOU RUN AGAINST A GUY LIKE THAT WHEN 75%, 80% OF LIKE THAT WHEN 75%, 80% OF REPUBLICANS SUPPORT THAT? REPUBLICANS SUPPORT THAT? THE PARTY HAS CHANGED, MARK. THE PARTY HAS CHANGED, MARK. IT’S CHANGED. IT’S CHANGED.>>I WOULD SAY THIS.>>I WOULD SAY THIS. THAT’S THE CENTRAL PREMISE OF THAT’S THE CENTRAL PREMISE OF THE CAMPAIGN. THE CAMPAIGN. THOSE THOUSANDS OF CONVERSATIONS THOSE THOUSANDS OF CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD OVER 25 YEARS, BOTH THAT I HAD OVER 25 YEARS, BOTH AS TWO TERMS IN THE GOVERNORSHIP AS TWO TERMS IN THE GOVERNORSHIP AND 12 YEARS IN THE HOUSE OF AND 12 YEARS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, THE THOUSANDS REPRESENTATIVES, THE THOUSANDS OF CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH OF CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH FOLKS WHETHER AT THE SMALL FOLKS WHETHER AT THE SMALL BUSINESS LEVEL WHERE THEY WERE BUSINESS LEVEL WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE IT OR WHETHER YOU TRYING TO MAKE IT OR WHETHER YOU TALK TO FOLKS AROUND THE KITCHEN TALK TO FOLKS AROUND THE KITCHEN COUNTER AND THEY’RE TALKING COUNTER AND THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT THE STRUGGLE THEY HAD WITH ABOUT THE STRUGGLE THEY HAD WITH FINANCES, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE FINANCES, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NOT DISAPPEARED. PEOPLE HAVE NOT DISAPPEARED. I THINK THAT THEY HAVEN’T BEEN I THINK THAT THEY HAVEN’T BEEN TALKED TO, THEY HAVEN’T BEEN TALKED TO, THEY HAVEN’T BEEN APPEALED TO. APPEALED TO. BUT I DON’T THINK THEY’VE BUT I DON’T THINK THEY’VE DISAPPEARED. DISAPPEARED. NOW IF I’M WRONG ON THAT, MY NOW IF I’M WRONG ON THAT, MY CAMPAIGN WILL BE SHORT LIVED. CAMPAIGN WILL BE SHORT LIVED. BUT IF I’M RIGHT, I THINK THAT BUT IF I’M RIGHT, I THINK THAT THIS CAMPAIGN WILL HAVE LEGS. THIS CAMPAIGN WILL HAVE LEGS.>>MARK, SO IS — YOU TALK ABOUT>>MARK, SO IS — YOU TALK ABOUT THIS CAMPAIGN BEING ABOUT WHAT THIS CAMPAIGN BEING ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A REPUBLICAN. IT MEANS TO BE A REPUBLICAN. IS PRESIDENT TRUMP A REPUBLICAN? IS PRESIDENT TRUMP A REPUBLICAN? AND THE REPUBLICAN LEADERS IN AND THE REPUBLICAN LEADERS IN CONGRESS WHO REFUSE TO CHALLENGE CONGRESS WHO REFUSE TO CHALLENGE HIM AT TIMES, ARE THEY TRY HIM AT TIMES, ARE THEY TRY LEGITIMATE REPUBLICANS WITH LEGITIMATE REPUBLICANS WITH CONSERVATIVE IDEALS? CONSERVATIVE IDEALS? WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT IS WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING? HAPPENING?>>I WOULD CERTAINLY SEE THE>>I WOULD CERTAINLY SEE THE FACT THAT WHATEVER REPUBLICAN IS FACT THAT WHATEVER REPUBLICAN IS HAS GOTTEN A BIT MURKY. HAS GOTTEN A BIT MURKY. IT’S A LONG WAY FROM WHERE JOE IT’S A LONG WAY FROM WHERE JOE AND I STARTED BACK IN THE EARLY AND I STARTED BACK IN THE EARLY ’90s? ’90s?>>IS THE PRESIDENT A>>IS THE PRESIDENT A REPUBLICAN? REPUBLICAN?>>THAT’S FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO>>THAT’S FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO DETERMINE. DETERMINE. I MEAN, HE’S CERTAINLY LABELED A I MEAN, HE’S CERTAINLY LABELED A REPUBLICAN. REPUBLICAN. I THINK THAT A LOT OF HIS I THINK THAT A LOT OF HIS ACTIONS ARE CONTRARY TO ACTIONS ARE CONTRARY TO CONSERVATIVE PHILOSOPHY WHICH I CONSERVATIVE PHILOSOPHY WHICH I THINK IS WHAT REPUBLICANISM THINK IS WHAT REPUBLICANISM TRADITIONALLY WAS ABOUT. TRADITIONALLY WAS ABOUT.>>MARK, WE HEAR OFTEN ABOUT HIS>>MARK, WE HEAR OFTEN ABOUT HIS BASE, TRUMP’S BASE, YOU HEAR IT BASE, TRUMP’S BASE, YOU HEAR IT ALL THE TIME THAT THEY LOVE HIM, ALL THE TIME THAT THEY LOVE HIM, THEY CAN’T BE SHAKEN FROM HIM. THEY CAN’T BE SHAKEN FROM HIM. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GO FROM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GO FROM STATE TO STATE TO GO TO HIS STATE TO STATE TO GO TO HIS RALLIES. RALLIES. WHAT’S YOUR THEORY OF THE CASE? WHAT’S YOUR THEORY OF THE CASE? IS THERE AN OPENING FOR SOMEONE IS THERE AN OPENING FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOU AND IF SO, WHAT IS IT? LIKE YOU AND IF SO, WHAT IS IT?>>I THINK TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS.>>I THINK TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS. IF YOU LOOK AT HOSTMOST OF THOSE IF YOU LOOK AT HOSTMOST OF THOSE POLLS WHEN THEY SAY 80% SUPPORT, POLLS WHEN THEY SAY 80% SUPPORT, MOSTLY THE ONES THAT RESPOND SAY MOSTLY THE ONES THAT RESPOND SAY THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PRESIDENTIAL LENGTHED, THERE PRESIDENTIAL LENGTHED, THERE THAT THERE OUGHT TO BE A DEBATE THAT THERE OUGHT TO BE A DEBATE AS TO WHERE WE’RE GOING AS A AS TO WHERE WE’RE GOING AS A PARTY. PARTY. MOST OF THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE, MOST OF THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE, AGAIN, I KEEP GOING BACK TO THEY AGAIN, I KEEP GOING BACK TO THEY HAVEN’T DISAPPEARED. HAVEN’T DISAPPEARED. THE GRASSROOTS OF WHAT THE PARTY THE GRASSROOTS OF WHAT THE PARTY USED TO BE ABOUT I THINK IS USED TO BE ABOUT I THINK IS STILL THERE. STILL THERE. BUT, AGAIN, THAT’S THE CENTRAL BUT, AGAIN, THAT’S THE CENTRAL TENANT THAT I’M GOING TO KPLAREX TENANT THAT I’M GOING TO KPLAREX IN THIS ZBLAN ONE OF THE THINGS IN THIS ZBLAN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE TALKED ABOUT WAS ILL THAT HE TALKED ABOUT WAS ILL LAMB IMMIGRATION. LAMB IMMIGRATION. THE COMPREHENSION REFORM THAT THE COMPREHENSION REFORM THAT ALLOWED — WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ALLOWED — WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ABOUT IMMIGRATION OVER ALL? ABOUT IMMIGRATION OVER ALL? AND A BIG PART OF THE COUNTRY IS AND A BIG PART OF THE COUNTRY IS CONCERNED ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. CONCERNED ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. DO YOU THINK A REPUBLICAN DO YOU THINK A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE SUCH AS YOURSELF CAN CANDIDATE SUCH AS YOURSELF CAN BELIEVE IN THE SCIENCE AND TALK BELIEVE IN THE SCIENCE AND TALK ABOUT RESPONSIBLE MEASURES ON ABOUT RESPONSIBLE MEASURES ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND STILL GET CLIMATE CHANGE AND STILL GET SOME SUPPORT? SOME SUPPORT?>>I WOULD HOPE SO.>>I WOULD HOPE SO. AGAIN, I COME FROM THE COAST OF AGAIN, I COME FROM THE COAST OF SOUTH CAROLINA. SOUTH CAROLINA. IT’S CALLED THE LOW COUNTRY OF IT’S CALLED THE LOW COUNTRY OF SOUTH CAROLINA FOR A REASON SOUTH CAROLINA FOR A REASON WHERE I GREW UP. WHERE I GREW UP. AND LITERALLY ON THE FARM THAT I AND LITERALLY ON THE FARM THAT I GREW UP ON YOU CAN SEE AREAS GREW UP ON YOU CAN SEE AREAS THAT THERE WERE PINE TREES THAT THERE WERE PINE TREES GROWING UP WHEN I WAS A BOY THAT GROWING UP WHEN I WAS A BOY THAT ARE NOW SALT FLATS. ARE NOW SALT FLATS. I BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE. I BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE. IT’S TO ME ILLOGICAL TO SAY I IT’S TO ME ILLOGICAL TO SAY I BELIEVE IN THE MIRACLES OF BELIEVE IN THE MIRACLES OF SCIENCE IN TERMS OF WHAT IT CAN SCIENCE IN TERMS OF WHAT IT CAN DO TO OUR BODIES AT A HOSPITALS DO TO OUR BODIES AT A HOSPITALS AT JOHNS HOPKINS BUT I DON’T AT JOHNS HOPKINS BUT I DON’T BELIEVE IN SCIENCE WHEN IT COMES BELIEVE IN SCIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO EARTH. TO EARTH. THAT, TO ME, IS A NONSEQUITUR. THAT, TO ME, IS A NONSEQUITUR. SO, YES, I WOULD THINK THAT SO, YES, I WOULD THINK THAT BELIEVING IN SCIENCE SEEMS TO BE BELIEVING IN SCIENCE SEEMS TO BE PRETTY LOGICAL AND THERE WOULD PRETTY LOGICAL AND THERE WOULD BE ROOM FOR THAT IN THE PARTY BE ROOM FOR THAT IN THE PARTY GOING FORWARD. GOING FORWARD. AS TO IMMIGRATION, YEAH, I MEAN, AS TO IMMIGRATION, YEAH, I MEAN, WE’RE A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS. WE’RE A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS. I THINK THE KEY THERE IS TO YOUR I THINK THE KEY THERE IS TO YOUR POINT LEGAL IMMIGRATION. POINT LEGAL IMMIGRATION. WE WANT TO HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE DON’T JUST HAPHAZARDLY PEOPLE DON’T JUST HAPHAZARDLY WALK BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE WALK BACK AND FORTH ACROSS THE BORDER. BORDER. BUT WE OUGHT TO WELCOME FOLKS. BUT WE OUGHT TO WELCOME FOLKS. WE’RE IN A GLOBAL RACE FOR WE’RE IN A GLOBAL RACE FOR INTELLECTUAL CAPITAL AND THE INTELLECTUAL CAPITAL AND THE IDEA OF REWARDING PEOPLE WHO IDEA OF REWARDING PEOPLE WHO HAVE BRAINPOWER COMING HERE AND HAVE BRAINPOWER COMING HERE AND STAYING TO THIS COUNTRY TO ME STAYING TO THIS COUNTRY TO ME MAKES SENSE. MAKES SENSE. IN ANOTHER SENSE WE HAVE REAL IN ANOTHER SENSE WE HAVE REAL NEEDS TO HANDLE WITH THE HANDS, NEEDS TO HANDLE WITH THE HANDS, HAVING A WORK PERMIT SYSTEM HAVING A WORK PERMIT SYSTEM THAT’S LOGICAL TO ME MAKES THAT’S LOGICAL TO ME MAKES SENSE. SENSE.>>GOVERNOR, LET ME ASK YOU –>>GOVERNOR, LET ME ASK YOU — LET ME JUMP IN HERE WITH A LET ME JUMP IN HERE WITH A CRASSLY POLITICAL QUESTION, CRASSLY POLITICAL QUESTION, WHICH IS WE HAVE SOME HISTORY IN WHICH IS WE HAVE SOME HISTORY IN THIS COUNTRY OF CHALLENGERS TO THIS COUNTRY OF CHALLENGERS TO INCUMBENT PRESIDENTS NOT GETTING INCUMBENT PRESIDENTS NOT GETTING THE NOMINATION BUT WEAKENING THE THE NOMINATION BUT WEAKENING THE PRESIDENT, I’M THINKINGIVE 1992 PRESIDENT, I’M THINKINGIVE 1992 WHEN BUCHANAN HAD A NEGATIVE WHEN BUCHANAN HAD A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W. IMPACT ON PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W. BUSH DID THE DO BUSH DID THE DO BUSH. BUSH. DO YOU HAVE A ROLE MODEL THERE DO YOU HAVE A ROLE MODEL THERE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE AND IF THE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE AND IF THE EFFECT OF YOUR CAMPAIGN IS TO EFFECT OF YOUR CAMPAIGN IS TO WEAKEN PRESIDENT TRUMP, NOT GET WEAKEN PRESIDENT TRUMP, NOT GET THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION BUT THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION BUT MAKE IT EASIER FOR A DEMOCRAT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR A DEMOCRAT TO WIN NEXT NOVEMBER, IS THAT OKAY WIN NEXT NOVEMBER, IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? WITH YOU?>>WELL, I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE>>WELL, I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP AS A REASON HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP AS A REASON NOT TO RUN. NOT TO RUN. BUT I THINK YOU GOT TO OWN WHAT BUT I THINK YOU GOT TO OWN WHAT YOU KNOWN LIFE. YOU KNOWN LIFE. AND SO THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF AND SO THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF SAYING WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN SAYING WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO ALL OF THOSE HIGH PARTY TO ALL OF THOSE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAMS ACROSS SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAMS ACROSS AMERICA, TELL YOU WHAT, GUYS, WE AMERICA, TELL YOU WHAT, GUYS, WE ARE NOT GOING TO SCRIMMAGE THIS ARE NOT GOING TO SCRIMMAGE THIS WEEK. WEEK. WE’LL BE STRONGER BY NOT WE’LL BE STRONGER BY NOT SCRIMMAGING, WE’RE JUST GOING TO SCRIMMAGING, WE’RE JUST GOING TO PLAY ON FRIDAY NIGHT. PLAY ON FRIDAY NIGHT. AND THE COACH WOULD SAY, ARE YOU AND THE COACH WOULD SAY, ARE YOU COMPLETELY OUT OF YOUR MIND? COMPLETELY OUT OF YOUR MIND? THE AMERICAN WAY IS PREMISED ON THE AMERICAN WAY IS PREMISED ON COMPETITION. COMPETITION. AND POLITICAL PARTIES OTHER MADE AND POLITICAL PARTIES OTHER MADE BETTER BY COMPETITION. BETTER BY COMPETITION. I WENT TO GRADUATE SCHOOL AT THE I WENT TO GRADUATE SCHOOL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA AND WE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA AND WE HAD THE CASE STUDY METHOD, YOU HAD THE CASE STUDY METHOD, YOU THREW AN IDEA OUT IN THE MIDDLE THREW AN IDEA OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TABLE, YOU DEBATED IT OF THE TABLE, YOU DEBATED IT LONG ENOUGH THAT HOPEFULLY AND LONG ENOUGH THAT HOPEFULLY AND IN MOST CASES YOU END UP WITH A IN MOST CASES YOU END UP WITH A BETTER IDEA AT THE END OF THE BETTER IDEA AT THE END OF THE DAY. DAY. I THINK THE PARTY WOULD BE MADE I THINK THE PARTY WOULD BE MADE STRONGER. STRONGER. I THINK THE EVENTUAL NOMINEE I THINK THE EVENTUAL NOMINEE WOULD BE MADE STRONGER BY ROBUST WOULD BE MADE STRONGER BY ROBUST DEBATE OF IDEAS RATHER THAN DEBATE OF IDEAS RATHER THAN SIMPLY SAYING WE PICKED OUR SIMPLY SAYING WE PICKED OUR HORSE, WE’RE STICKING WITH AND HORSE, WE’RE STICKING WITH AND IT WE’LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS COME IT WE’LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS COME NEXT NOVEMBER. NEXT NOVEMBER.>>BEFORE YOU GO, IF TRUMP WINS>>BEFORE YOU GO, IF TRUMP WINS THE NOMINATION, WHO WILL YOU THE NOMINATION, WHO WILL YOU VOTE FOR FOR PRESIDENT? VOTE FOR FOR PRESIDENT?>>I MEAN, THAT’S ONE OF THOSE>>I MEAN, THAT’S ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS OF HOW MANY ANGELS QUESTIONS OF HOW MANY ANGELS DANCED ON THE HEAD OF A PEN, DANCED ON THE HEAD OF A PEN, I’LL WORRY ABOUT IT WHEN I GET I’LL WORRY ABOUT IT WHEN I GET THERE. THERE. I WOULD SAY THIS FAIRNESS, I WOULD SAY THIS FAIRNESS, THOUGH, I’M AN IDEA GUY. THOUGH, I’M AN IDEA GUY. I BELIEVE IN IDEAS. I BELIEVE IN IDEAS. AND I’M GOING TO PICK THE AND I’M GOING TO PICK THE CANDIDATE THAT’S CLOSEST TO WHAT CANDIDATE THAT’S CLOSEST TO WHAT I BELIEVE IN CONFRONTING THIS I BELIEVE IN CONFRONTING THIS FINANCIAL STORM THAT’S COMING FINANCIAL STORM THAT’S COMING OUR WAY. OUR WAY. I THINK WE HAVE A PROFOUND I THINK WE HAVE A PROFOUND PROBLEM, THE LIKES OF A PROBLEM, THE LIKES OF A FINANCIAL HURRICANE THAT’S FINANCIAL HURRICANE THAT’S COMING ASHORE IF WE DO NOTHING COMING ASHORE IF WE DO NOTHING ON DEBT, DEFICIT, AND GOVERNMENT ON DEBT, DEFICIT, AND GOVERNMENT SPENDING. SPENDING. AND SO THE ANSWER TO THE AND SO THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHOEVER COMES QUESTION WOULD BE WHOEVER COMES THE CLOSEST TO ANSWERING THOSE THE CLOSEST TO ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS FOR ME. QUESTIONS FOR ME.>>REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL>>REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MARK SANFORD. CANDIDATE MARK SANFORD. GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW. GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW.>>YES, MA’AM.>>YES, MA’AM.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>PLEASURE.>>PLEASURE.>>>UP NEXT, THE DEATH TOLL FROM>>>UP NEXT, THE DEATH TOLL FROM HURRICANE DORIAN IN THE BAHAMAS HURRICANE DORIAN IN THE BAHAMAS IS RISING AS RELIEF EFFORTS ARE IS RISING AS RELIEF EFFORTS ARE UNDER WAY. UNDER WAY. DR. DAVE CAMPBELL AND SOME OF DR. DAVE CAMPBELL AND SOME OF THE “MORNING JOE” TEAMS ARE JUST THE “MORNING JOE” TEAMS ARE JUST BACK FROM COVERING THOSE




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  1. It’s not the Republican Party. It’s the Christian party.
    And that is extremely EFF’d up.
    It’s time to tax Christian churches. They don’t deserve $1 trillion worth of tax breaks every 12 years. What did they give us in return? A racist Homophobic Pussygrabbing Conman .

  2. These news stories are not allowed to talk about the spoofing conspiracy by the big banks bank of America and JPMorgan and Deutsche bank and Merrill Lynch spoofing the crimex comex

  3. GOP leaderships in South Carolina Kansas and Nevada have chosen not to take part in the 2020 election in fear of Russia and Oligarch Trump.

  4. When a primary challenge seems likely can't we just do the old, game the system and tell a big old fish story?

  5. What it means to be in the GOP: 1- One must forego ANY and ALL morally-based values and replace them with an unquenchable thirst for power and money. 2- One must swear fealty to the Dear Leader. 3- One must be prepared to do ANYTHING to protect said Dear Leader. That's it! It's so easy!

  6. Most of the Republicans who were decent people have fled to be Independent or Democrat. Same thing that happened when Democrats became the party of civil rights in the 60s… many racist Dems fled to the Republican party. Pretty much anyone left who is openly a Republican anymore is nothing like Republicans of just 10 years ago. Their entire platform is hate, spite, racism, and division. You can't negotiate with them. You can't talk sense into them. Most of their supporters are extremely ignorant and uneducated.. also mostly poor, rural, and white. This is not really about politics, it's about a segment of the population in America that sees its heyday coming to an end and they're terrified and lashing out. This is the last dying gasp of the old racist bigots.

  7. Unless these Republican challengers are willing to vote for the democratic nominee against Trump I don’t want to hear about it.

  8. Sorry Joe those Republican policies you taut has failed Americans especially working families of all races. All the money went to military (industrial complex but crumbs for service men and women), multinational corporations, and free money to rich people this is why the GOP will be in trouble in 2020 and long after Trump is gone.

  9. We are in dire need of reforming the process of how and when we fund things. Most lf things getting done the last 15 years, shed 30-60% of the total financial heft, before a penny had gone into financing the actual expenditures of the intended operation, department or project. We need to be significantly less charitable with the tax codes that only impact big corporations and other 9+ figures entities; those good faith gestures never have and never will, serve the nation.

  10. First of all, republicans cancelling the primary to protect t'rump seems a bit un-American and un-democratic.
    Second, that come as absolutely no surprise to me.
    Third, what is t'rump afraid of? Just let these guys run.
    Unless of course he has to defend his 3 years of being an incompetent fool! 🤔😄😆😅😂

  11. Now that's a real Republican. I don't have problems with most Republicans, I have problems with Trump Supporters. They are indeed different.

  12. Had his libido not driven him to near insanity years ago, Mark Sanford would have made a more than credible GOP presidential candidate in 2016. And who doesn't like to hike the Appalachian Trail? 😂 🤣 Yes, he and Joe may believe that Bill Clinton had nothing to do with balancing the budget by reducing military spending and raising taxes on upper-income earners but no one remembers their heyday with complete clarity 😉

  13. 7:10 There are no "miracles of science." There's science, & then there is the irrational belief in miracles based on outcome. Death in never a miracle, but it's guaranteed & happens everyday.

  14. How do they pick candidate for the House, and, local legislative seats? I can not see how they can gain by doing this. It is likely to depress turnout in down ballot races.
    We can only hope it is just more self destructive behavior on their part.

  15. 2:55 Which years are they referring to when they say “they” balanced the budget? Do they mean ‘98, in which “they” were both in the opposition party? What are they talking about? Am I missing something here or is this carefully worded revisionist history?

  16. Sounds like the electoral college at work again….we have to get rid of that shameful institution.

    Mark Sanford wasn't he the governor who disappeared from his office, lied about the fact that he went off to indulge in his affair with an Argentinian….Another womanizer and liar – yeah we need that guy to replace the womanizing liar we already have.

    The other Republican, Joe what's his name, who is running against Trump doesn't believe in paying his child support. Oh yeah, it's fine to have babies as long as you don't have to support them….feed them, house them, clothe them….sounds like the people who don't want women to terminate pregnancies but God forbid making sure the woman has enough money to feed and house them.

  17. All media needs to start plastering this all over the place with the title Some States Have to Prevent Republican Primaries to Protect Trump or It Appears Trump Can't Win if Primaries Happen.

  18. being GOP means causing a recession and blaming others for their actions and or ignoring people when they try telling you what you should already know from the 12 Other times it happened

  19. I am suspicious of Mark Sanford, I saw a Netflix documentary "The Family", he featured quite a bit. But Trump is mixed up in it too, so maybe Sanford would be better.
    https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a28615673/the-family-netflix-mark-sanford-john-ensign/

  20. Why should Trump be primaried??? Trump enjoys the highest Republican support in a long time, besides he represents Republicans very well: Corruption, High Debt, High Deficits, Isolationism, Pro Dictatorships, Pro Swamp, Pro Evangelical Christianity, Xenophobia, minority’s bashing, Pro tariffs, Pro bailout, Pro socialism for farmers, Pro bigotry, Pro racism, Pro bending over in front of Russia

  21. It's all about family values, right Mark. Like walking out on your wife and kids to get a little strange? All about family values right dickhead?

  22. Come on dude, surely you wouldn’t vote for a insane racist that has wreaked the people in this country and weakened our standing around the world! Anyone running against would be an improvement over Trump!! I a Bernie supporter but if he’s not the candidate in 20/20 min supporting whoever that candidate happens to be. I hope we save something for our children and invest in education as well as climate change and technology. We should be leading the world to hopefully save it for children & grandchildren & theirs. But Trump must go!!!!

  23. If you think this is something that is going to help the democrats criminals you are a fool this guy thinks he is going to school turmp hahaha no eany thing what a laugh turmp will mop the floor with this guy ok once again tump accomplishments or off the charts never seen before in presidential history listen nothing is going to stop trump from being president in 2020 no nothing you laughing hyenas

  24. The Brainwashed and dumbdowned people in the comment section is very sad that fake Lying news MSNBC Brainwashed and dumbdowned u people.u sad clueless People have no idea how good u have it and still have your freedom under our great WINNING President Trump.any Demonrat president ever gets in the Whitehouse KISS YOUR FREEDOM GOOD BYE,KISS YOUR RIGHTS GOOD BYE,KISS YOUR JOB GOOD BYE AND THESE CORRUPT DEMOCRATS AND FAKE LYING NEWS MEDIA WANT A RECESSION JUST LET A DEMONRAT BECOME PRESIDENT,KISS EVERYTHING GOID BYE U WILL HAVE OPEN BORDERS FOR BILLIONS OF I'LLEGALS FROM EVERY COUNTRY COMING IN AMERICA WITH GUNS,CHILD TRAFFICKERS,DRUGS, MILLIONS OF TERRORIST ,GANGS , AND WE WILL BE PART OF THE DEMOCRAT NWO AGENDA DEPOPULATION AGENDA KILLING NEWBORN BABIES AFTER BIRTH AND GENOCIDE ON AMERICAN CITIZENS THE ILLEGALS WILL TAKE OVER AMERICA AND U AND EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN WILL SECOND IF AT ALL I'LLEGALS WILL BE FIRST BEFORE US THE AMERICAN CITIZENS.NO PLANES,NO CARS,NO TRAINS,NO PROTECTION ANYMORE, GOVERNMENT WILL TELL U WHAT U CAN EAT,WHAT U CAN WEAR,HOW MUCH WATER U CAN USE,NO GAS,NO OIL,HARDLY ANY FOOD AKA COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM for U.CANT BELIEVE ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO LIVE LIKE THAT,U PEOPLE DON'T HAVE S CLUE HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE TO HAVE A GREAT WINNING PRESIDENT IN D.TRUMP WHO WILL BE REELECTED IN 2020AND I THANK GOD FOR THAT AND STILL HAVE OUR FREEDOM.U WILL BE SORRY IF A DEMOCRAT EVER BECOMES PRESIDENT U WILL WISH PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS STILL PRESIDENT GUARANTEED.STUPIDITY IS RUNNING WILD.MSNBC IS PATHETIC FAKE LYING NEWS THE TRUE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE INDICTED FOR TREASON AND SEDITION AGAINST A SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.GITMO WILL BE THERE NEW HOME.

  25. "the early 90s" that would have been Clinton. which of course was the best Republican president Republican would have loved to have.

  26. Local government will be the key
    to expose the truth and lies
    Paychecks are shrinking
    No clean air or water
    Gun violence is killing our children
    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

  27. this is communism,the voters in those state have lost their rights.glad i switched from republican.as long as trumps contender for president i wont vote republican.

  28. The Republican party is dying. They have stubbornly refused to change with the times and now, they're paying the price.

  29. Another mindless ignorant dogmatic Republican; his economic storm consists of debt, deficit and spending no mention of revenue and taxes.

  30. That's pathetic … There has been a dramatic structural shift in the Republican Party. In one sense, Trump us the result, not the cause. The party began purging any forward thinking elements and has evolved into an ultra-right, authoritarian asylum. As much as Joe yearns for that mythical "Conservative" era, there's go coining back to anything resembling that.

  31. Nevada, Kansas and South Carolina refuses to hold GOP primaries because they all know that the doosh isn't as knowledgeable or cannot eloquently carry himself with any debate! We all know that the tool in chief is dumb as a friggin' rock!

  32. One feels himself ashamed to call himself Republican today. Better call oneself Conservative but more like to conserve what was under Obama, not what we have now.

  33. In a one on one with Trump, all he has to do is mention your 'camping trip'. Instant toast! Just as Chappaquiddick was Ted Kennedy's Achilles heel.

  34. there is way much more going on then what people think behind the GOP not checking Donald Trump. It's about a master move going on, a white nationalist movement taking place in the United States. Something like the final solution. if not checked it will be checkmate. You better wake up. Wake Up! then again these are the last days that we're living in. It is what was preached about what people would be doing in the last days.

  35. I am very very worried and concerned about what is going on with the hurricane damages in Bahamas. We got to help those people we have to do something.

  36. Wow! what a pile of crap, not allowing the electorate to choose who they vote for….It sounds like Russia to me…. totally disgusting. Putin is winning.

  37. Comrade Trump-ski is using American coffers to keep his failing businesses afloat.  How long will the GOP Castrati allow this out-of-control criminally insane man boy to run amok? The Criminal-in-Chief's love affairs with Little Kim, Daddy Vlad-dy, and the Taliban are a threat to our national security.

  38. Gop= dictators, liars, sycophant, hates American law and order, hates the constitution. Forget socialism on the left, these guys are white supremacists, Nazis, Putin lovers, believing the Saudis, and in love with the crazy missile guy in nk, hate facts on science, intelligence and weather truths, against free trade, balanced budgets, people, farmers, but love corruption, lies, and greed.

  39. Lets face FACTS . The Republican Party and by extension WHITE PEOPLE has ALWAYS wanted a FASCIST to RULE THEM which is why they ELECTED TRUMP !!! Because that is their collective history LAW , HONOR, PEACE , JUSTICE , PATRIOTISM even FAITH are EXIGENT and TEMPORAL are only invoked when the object is DECEPTION !!! In EVERY CASE the MOST IMMORAL and AMORAL among them ………………………….WILL BECOME THE LEADER !!! ………….. And like a CULT be ADORED , OBEYED , and WORSHIPED !!!……………………………………..THIS IS THE TRUTH !!!

  40. What it means to be GOP is easy to define. It means racism, misogynistic rhetoric, old, paranoid white men, brain dead evangelicals and white supremacy. Being a Republican means being anti American in 2019. I can only hope that we won’t see another Republican in office in my lifetime. America can’t take anymore of these insane people.

  41. Sorry to say this, buth Mark Sanford, Joe Walsh and William Weld do not stand a chance to defeat Trump. In the spring of 2016 the Clinton campaign put out a television ad saying that The Republicna Party is now the party of Donald Trump. They were perfectly right and those few intellectual conservatives who believe anything else are waisting their time with wishful thinking.

  42. TRUMP works for PUTIN! (((NEVER FORGET HELSINKI!!!)))

    REAGAN REPUBLICANS HAVE A VOICE AGAIN!!! JOIN **ROGUE REPUBLICANS** TO TAKE BACK OUR PARTY!!!

    Just over the last three months, 100's of thousands of (REAL Reagan) Republicans in every state in the United States, as well as our territories abroad, have signed up to become **ROGUE REPUBLICANS** !!! Our ROGUE REPUBLICAN AGENDA? Go to the polls in 2020 and vote for any Republican party nominee who is NOT Trump! If Trump wins the Republican party nomination? WE WILL ALL VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT NOMINEE!!!

    Think WOLVERINES!!!! in Red Dawn!

    100's of thousands are joining our movement every day and from every single state and our territories abroad.

    We have one common unifying phrase= REMEBER HELSINKI!!!!

  43. The Democratic Party is for the people. The GOP is for corrupt billionaires, conglomerates, and dictators that can afford their services.

  44. This P I N H E A D had his J O H N S O N in his mistresses / when the Hotel Porter came to the room with his wife. How @#$%& ing embarrassing is that? If your a guy imagine how you would feel with your JOHNSON in your mistresses / and your wife is standing at the door with the bell hop. If your the wife, imagine how you would feel if your going to surprise your husband at his hotel room and the PORTER opens the door wide and the first image you see is your husbands JOHNSON in his mistresses /. This guy is a J O K E, and a NEVER TRUMPER. Check your history, he all but guaranteed the AMERICAN PEOPLE that TRUMP wouldn't be PRESIDENT. That's TWO { 2 } H U G E mistakes just in the last few years. And no the wife did not FORGIVE him.

  45. Tramp's Troops have a disease more dreadful and disfiguring than Tertiary Syphilis, yet they claim they're "In The Pink" and
    couldn't possibly be healthier. It's impossible to negotiate with creatures that are That Far Gone!

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