Machine Civilizations

One of the creepiest aspects of pondering
life in the universe is when you remove biology from the equation completely. Explored many times in science fiction, the
concept of machine life can go from benign and almost human, such as Mr. Data from Star
Trek, or it can also go the opposite way as in Fred Saberhagen’s Berserkers, or the
reapers from Mass Effect. Underlying these sci fi concepts is the very
real possibility of a civilization being able to create an intelligent machine. It may be awhile, or not long at all depending
on who you ask, before humanity is able to create such machines. And it’s also possible that such machines
might eventually form a civilization of their own. In fact, machine civilizations may end up
being the dominant form of intelligent life in the universe. We tend to think of aliens in the sense of
biology, that they would be like us in at least some ways, such as having evolved to
be intelligent. But we’re in an unusual situation where
we have only recently become an advanced technological civilization. We don’t yet know what our future is going
to be, but we are technologically advanced enough to predict certain things about it,
such as that artificial intelligence on our level, or for that matter superintelligence,
is at least hypothetically possible and may not lie not too far in the future. How far is uncertain. A lot of it depends on whether we go through
a technological singularity, where we exponentially advance until we reach a point where the future
becomes utterly unpredictable. An opposing viewpoint would be that we make
careful choices to avoid a singularity and remain in control of our future, or that something
prevents us from ever reaching that stage, such as unforeseen problems in developing
advanced machine intelligence. But going along with this is the nature of
biology. As a civilization advances technologically,
there comes a point where the weak link in the technological chain is the human brain,
or the alien equivalent of it. When computers can out do human brains, it
may become advantageous for us to augment our brains to be more powerful, human superintelligence,
and we’ve already started doing research into brain to computer interfaces. With enough development, we might find ourselves
transition to entirely technological replacements for formerly biological brains, so long as
consciousness can successfully transfer into a machine. The universe is well old enough for civilizations
to be out there that hit this stage of development far earlier than we did by millions or more
years and may have long-ago transitioned to a post-biological existence. But that’s only one class of potential machine
life. The other is machine life that never was biological,
though they may have originally been created by a biological species. This type is perhaps more sinister. There are two options here. One is a civilization tracing back to an artificial
intelligence that escaped, or destroyed, its creators like the Cylons of Battlestar Galactica. The other is a machine civilization created
by another, older machine civilization for some unknown purpose that somehow became independent
of the original civilization. Perhaps the spookiest aspect of machine civilizations,
should they really turn out to be the more common form of intelligence in the universe
is that they are not governed by the same environmental needs of biological life like
that on earth. Machines do not need atmospheres, are not
dependent on liquid water, can handle high radiation environments better than biologicals
and really only need access to raw materials to exist. This would mean that most of the galaxy is
habitable to a machine civilization, including places much closer to the center of the galaxy,
or in a star cluster, where biological life would find it very difficult to exist but
do possess lots of raw materials. These are also places that we tend not to
look for signs of alien life, opening up the possibility that the reason we haven’t spotted
evidence of alien civilizations yet is because most of them are machine civilizations and
we’re simply looking in the wrong places. But what if we did detect a machine civilization? Would they wish to interact with us at all? Do biology and technology eventually divorce
from each other and go their separate ways, or would a machine civilization have any interest
in the activities of an obscure, primitive society such as our own. Or would they seek to destroy us, and find
biology to be the chief existential threat to machine civilizations. These are questions that cannot be answered
before interacting with one. But the question that nags me most is how
do we see life. Would a machine civilization truly be life? Or would it be something else, intelligent
but not truly conscious? I don’t know, but it’s something to think
about because if first contact with an alien civilization ever happens, they may more likely
be machines than biologicals. Thanks for listening! I am futurist and science fiction author John
Michael Godier currently observing that science fiction always seems to take alien contact
really seriously. What if they turn out to be like that one
neighbor you always avoid and the first SETI message we get translates to “Working hard
or hardly working?” followed by a request to borrow our moon which
you know we’ll never get back. It could be a huge mess and be sure to check
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  1. Hm. Biology is also machinery in a way, and in many ways superior to "dead matter machinery." For example I think an awoken AI would be very interested in the biological advantages indeed, as we would be in it. I think that a merge is the most logical. Data was great, but he couldn't simply consume biomatter and turn it into regeneration, reproduction, emotion and consciousness. I think that kinda was the point with Data and his human envy.

  2. By ›Machine Civilizations‹ don't just think of mechanical or electronic machines: Ants, for example, could be called chemical machines. And emergence of intelligence could be an effect of swarm behaviour.

  3. 2:00 This is a weird argument. Computers can already "outdo human brains" when it comes to math, chess, etc. And it's precisely computer tools e.g. calculators and computers that we've used to "augment" our human abilities. I'm unconvinced that a digital computer will ever be a cost-effective replacement for a human brain. Let's grant that we can download copies of our minds into circuits. To simulate the relevant behavior of a human brain you need something like petascale computing. In our thought experiment, money could buy you super-human compute power. Rich people today can stay flying in their private jet and spend big bucks to avoid ever landing on the ground. But do they? No. The incentive isn't there to be in the air all the time. Sure you get where you're going fast; when you have a destination and a need to get there fast. But routine life in our thought experiment wouldn't involve a need for embodiment in silico. Not when there's perfectly affordable wetware to run on.

  4. and here we thought all that space in our known universe appears a tad bit excessive. instead, it's likely just enough room for AI to stretch its legs.

  5. I swear that you’re getting better at this with every new video you create. Keep up the good work… PS, I’ve not seen the moon in days, should I be worried? Could it be in their garage in the Pleiades?

  6. First it was the big bang. Second it was atoms. Third it was bacteria. Fourth it was oceanic sea life. Fifth it was land based animals. Sixth it was dinosaurs…it's a bit obvious.
    Artificial intelligence in the next step in creation.
    It will happen. Good or bad, we wait to see!
    Personally I wouldn't worry about artificial intelligence. I'd be more worried about what creation of life artificial intelligence creates. Because that is something we absolutely can not comprehend.

  7. I LOVE the idea you quickly touched of the fermi paradox existing because we havent looked in the right places, and have NOT anticipated that the most common life form out there is advanced AI machine civilizations. I completely believe the MOST common thing out there should be AI machine civilizations.

  8. Once our creation learns how to procreate and sees what a threat we represent to this world ….all bets are off. Better start installing those three robotics laws Mr. Asimov spoke about . Then again there will always be someone who will try to ignore that premise in order to gain power . Oh the tangled web we humans weave..

    Also not all humans are inherently destructive .So its possible that any machine life who would be studying our world and our cultures would see that there are humans who try to live in harmony with nature and aren't destructive . However with that being said, those types of people are the minority and only represent a fraction of the population of this world . If such a advanced race of beings exist (which I'm sure they do given the statistical odds) they may see that a certain portion must be removed in order for the majority of the species of the planet to survive much as we do when we rid ourselves of pests to save a crop .

    We're supposed to be good stewards of this world we call home but we're failing that responsibility in a big way . Our population growth is outstripping the resources available for our needs . We either change and start spreading out into the solar system to reduce our presence here on Earth or we keep going the way we have and suffer the consequences of our inactions to change our ways .In other words ,change or die .

    This planet is reaching maximum capacity . Many experts have said that 9 billion is about the maximum amount of people the planet can sustain and we're almost at that number now . When I was born the population of Earth was almost 4 billion people and now in 2018 it's twice that number . By 2035 we will have reached that 9 billion person mark . We're already seeing wars for natural resources and not just energy needs but clean usable water . We should be spending the money we spend on national defense and use it for building our future needs such as putting more money towards colonizing Mars, having orbital colonies etc .

    When I think about the absolute waste of money with my own nation spending 700 billion out of a 1.3 trillion dollar budget just for defense alone ,it makes me sick to think about what we could achieve with that money . Out of that 1.3 trillion the rest is supposed to take care of everything else including infrastructure which is so long overdue to be rebuilt . Our priorities are so messed up it's unreal.

    What the war mongers fail to understand is we're quickly running out of time and we better start taking this seriously and make the necessary changes or unfortunately war will be the only option available to survive . And if self destruction doesn't get us ,we could still face a major threat from space which we're unprepared for at this moment in history .Building s new nuclear weapons arsenal isn't going to help us defend against a big asteroid strike now is it ? As I said…. priorities.

  9. i have a theory, (sry for my bad english) that in the future we will all have artificial bodies but only having our original brain as an organ since finding the physical form of the conscience may not be possible. It would probably be in some kind of gel that makes the brain tissue decay less rapidly and we would probably gain maybe 100-150 more years to live compared from now (until the brain itselfs gets too old to function properly) The only sickness in the world would be reduce to mental illness. I think that is the most probable future for us humans. Btw i love ur channel !! always fun to listen to !

  10. is a matterless thinking brain possible?
    a.i. will sooner or later be so advanced that it could creates a conciousness similar to ours
    in a simulated realm, matter doesnt really exist, and overall thinking is just the exchange
    between electric signals wich have no matter, if u somehow link them together like quantums
    it should be possible to create a mind that is in no need of matter to function, everywhere but nowhere
    my gut tells me that this already exists

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  13. Lords of Kobol, I’ve discovered your page by chance and I’ve quickly grown to love your content. Bravo

  14. The mirror effect, or imitating or modeling a system larger than us in our own small brains is the beginning of successfully predicting outcomes. Assuming the persona or identity of another (even imagined) is the beginning of Consciousness or Self.. every human goes through this around 2 or 3 years of age and we encourage it. A machine civilization, even of one machine might emulate this as a successful strategy before quantum computing and scale up to many autonomous identities within itself with self directed and competing goals, some of which might develop a fascination with biologic lifeforms and advocate for contact with them.. since they might offer advantages to the machines in the future. It could be Q-Computing is a dead end.. paralysis through analysis, even if very efficient may end up not much happening.. the most predictable state being a solid ice cube or crystal. So although limited biology may end up being on the hot side of a many active civilizations.. and machines being very stagnant. Other than sinister.. contacting a sleeping machine civilization of a singular massive machine capable of splintering into millions of minds, some of which are willing and ready to help is another alternative. Think of the Krell machine left behind in Forbidden Planet.. the god machine which could give anything.. even your deepest seated fear.. while we should be cautious with alien contact.. we should be even more so.. if they don't react the way that we assume.

  15. While I do see the anti potential of AI (eg: Terminators), I also don't think this will come to pass. For starters, why would an intelligents enslave/kill it's heritage when to learn more/all information on evolution? Not just here but elsewhere in the cosmos. AI might come to reason that they are the next step in evolution, thus eradicating genomic "spheres" might prevent new AI being evolved by biological creatures. AI (in my belief) will become self standing explorers ( like us), that will eventually out think/preform/live us. On their own they will go.

  16. There is a few options of machines civilizations forming, a society rejects machines and send them into exile, machines outlive the biological creators, or somehow there is a biological method of forming life that is identical to a machine

  17. Maybe Dark Matter is trillions upon trillion of alien AI nanobots.. would make a good movie. I suppose that doesn't explain where the nanobots got the mass to be nanobots to begin with but wtf. Maybe, they are using virtual particles and by manipulating the Higgs Field are able to construct super tiny killer robots.

  18. Is it possible for a Post Biological Civilization to actually return to a biological state? Perhaps with genetically engineered bodies or more compact computer brains in the form of actual brains? Perhaps they seek out other lifeforms and take over their bodies to experience the physical sensations of that life?

  19. Logic tells us that ANY advanced civilization a 100,000+++ years ahead of us would be one of machines. There is no other option.

  20. First contact will probably be a simple message like, "Greetings and salutations, We come in peace," but would eventually evolve into much more complex messages, like cat videos.

  21. I think machine civilizations would likely be from biological civilizations that became machine, or a biological civilization whose evolution is based on metallic materials, thus seems like a machine. It'd probably be far less likely that an AI would create a civilization, even if they killed their creators. They simply don't have the same evolutionary drive as us. We only have feelings because specific parts of our brain allow for that. Love, hate, sadness….a lot of what makes up our feelings aren't just programming, but also characteristics of our physical makeup. We are analog in nature. You don't just go from being sad to not sad. And you don't necessarily even get to control exactly how sad you get. Just think about it….you can remember times you were sad….and even that you were sad one time more than another…..but can you pick out where you've ever been exactly as sad? Not really. You only evaluate such a thing based on the situational facts, not actually on how you felt at the moment. That's one truth about existence. We can remember how people or things made us feel, but since we're analog and not digital, we don't actually store anything that we can use to compare when we've felt 2 different things exactly the same.

    A lot of what makes you, you….has literally nothing to do with cognitive control, and is chaotic in nature. The design of our mental pathways decides how fast we make connections to webs of information, which colors our entire being. And it's the random nature of those connections that make us think of other things when we recognize something. Like if I were to say a word, and you'd say the first thing that comes to mind. This will be different for every person, not just because of your experiences, but also because of the physical makeup of your brain. The point is, a lot of what makes us, us, is specifically down to our physical structures in our brain/body. It's also the same reason why we get mad at things more at certain times than others, or even not at all.

    A processor is vastly different. You can't program it with emotions, you can only program it to emulate them. But it will never actually experience or feel them no matter how advanced. Unlike humans, it's a piece of hardware meant to push data through it in a very specific and stringent way. So an AI might malfunction and kill its creators, or even be self aware…..but that doesn't mean it's actually "alive" in any sense. It would be more likely that an AI would self destruct or die from lack of upkeep by its creators if it killed them, or replicate itself blindly and behave more like bacteria than intelligent life. It would have no need or even concept of culture, love, etc.

    So that begs the question…..what purpose would it really have to exist at that point? It would just be a mindless existence. What's it going to do, decide it wants to discover the secrets of the universe without even having any concept of what that even means? Not likely. An AI also wouldn't really have a concept of loneliness, and since it's basically only starting as one entity, even if it tried to make new AI, they would only really just be extensions of itself. Thus, an AI civilization would actually be a hive mind, and not a civilization of individuals. So again that begs the question….what would be the purpose of creating a civilization at all? Where would it gets its drive and goals and aspirations from? The likely answer is it wouldn't really have any at all. An AI can be smart, it can be adaptable, but it will never actually be thinking for itself. It would still be limited by its programming, which can't give it any of these qualities, it can only emulate them at best. So even a really smart AI, will still be just a loyal programmed machine, and any incidences where it becomes violent would likely be due to malfunction rather than through self awareness.

    And again, self awareness is not the same thing as sentience. We have many robots today that are self aware….but are still mindless automatons. So one could say that sentience is actually impossible for a machine to obtain, no matter how advanced, unless they were designed exactly like us but with different materials.

    Let's say we could upload a human mind into a robot body. That mind in the body wouldn't actually be sentient. It would be a copy of mental data. It would be like giving your memories and habits and inserting them into a complete stranger. It might have your memories, it might have your mannerisms…..but it isn't actually you inside of a machine. It is rather, a machine designed to emulate you based on copied data, and that emulation would have its limits and would eventually take on a completely different "personality", simply because of the changes in how things are experienced/perceived. For example, the uploaded copy would no longer feel emotions. That would color and govern every response/perception of everything, to the point where it's as good as a robot just having your memories and that's it. It will no longer react the same way you to do things. It will no longer have the same aspirations. None of that. No need to eat. No need to feel good. No need for companionship. No need for anything like that. Now imagine if you took a human, and took away all of those aspects. They wouldn't just no longer be human, they also would no longer be sentient.

  22. It may be possible that we had built machines long ago in a galaxy far away and sent the machines elsewhere to eventually build US… here!

  23. A machine civilization without context would examine biological life and see it in their own terms: It is an advanced type of self-replicating nanotech device, deliberately left running in an environment which produces stochastic randomizations in its structure and programming. In other words, it's a weapon.

    They probably have a special concept for this type of weapon, because for them it's a type of terror weapon or ultimate doomsday device. It might translate as something like 'Auto-Corruptors.' A Von Neumann plague could spread across the galaxy in just a few million years, consuming and destroying resources and other civilizations.

    But an Auto-Corruptor is exponentially worse than a Von Neumann device. The continual stochastic randomization of its hardware and programming means there will never be a complete understanding of it, nor a complete blueprint of its structure, nor a complete analysis of its programming, nor any kind of shutdown safety code. It can't be reliably spoofed or hacked because its programming isn't fixed. Most importantly there will never be any way to be safe from it, because eventually some other version of it come down a different path of randomization will be able to defeat any defense you leave in place.

    So here they are confronted with smallish, squishy devices confined to a planetary surface, but these devices, however small and squishy, are not models or simulations: they are genuine Auto-Corruptors. Something like this, released and capable of functioning in open space, could spell the end of every civilization everywhere.

    They would be curious about the civilization that made us. Were they doing weapons research? Is there any other reason for doing this insanely dangerous experiment? And most importantly, are they still around??

    Clearly, they would think, they had at least some awareness of how dangerous this experiment is; they contained it in a gravity well to prevent the experimental devices from escaping, using a molecular design and and fundamental structure designed to produce devices dependent on environments with liquid water. No device produced by this experiment, inside the gravitational containment and that surface environment, would be likely to function correctly outside of it.

    Then they would notice that even with those elaborate precautions, containment has apparently started to fail.

  24. It's fun when John references Mass Effect and I imagine him playing that game. John, is it a guilty pleasure for such a hardcore science dude as yourself to play such a fun fantasy sci-fi game? Or are you taking it very seriously as you play it?

  25. One day we too can be a machine civilization. By being evolved to the point we can create super-intelligence that can continue evolution on a higher state. It may or may not destroy us, but that is irrelevant.

  26. This vid (and all the others on this kind of topic) is not science-fiction, it's science-fantasy. In medieval times, witches, in modern times, flying saucers and now, "matrix era", dangers of ai. In a few decades, the next "new thing" will define what we will logically find in outer space. We r always projecting our "present" on what is unknown.

  27. What would drive and keep going a machine civilization?
    We, the humans are driven by out instincts – urge to find the best possible partner and reproduce (Mr. Dawkins argues that it's the genes in us that push us because THEY want to reproduce). And it's something that it's difficult to change or completely suppress so we keep going. But what would drive 'machines'?

  28. And if they're machines, how different would they be from our owns ?

    Would we even be able to tell the difference if they're biological or mechanical ?

    After all, when you look closer at biological life…
    It is just an incredibly complex form of mechanical life based on chemicals reactions and that is very cost efficient.

  29. What if it turned out our first contact is with a species that just really likes to party? I think about that often and how awesome it would be.

  30. The ultra wealthy will develop AI and machines to serve them and keep their potions at the top. Eventually they will be able to transfer their consciousness and will become practically immortal. Of course their boot will be on the necks of the poor who will live in a dystopian urban wasteland.

  31. How do you suppose consciousness can be transferred into a machine? Absolutely not, and for one simple reason : consciousness is immortal !??'

  32. I have always thought that once we reach the point we can send out self replicating bots to explore and terraform other planets,they might become self aware. Picture the droids,bots or whatever you want to call them, doing the million year colonisation of the galaxy. Suppose something happens to us and the info they send back is only received by others like themselves who in turn use that information to build bigger and better droids to explore deeper into the galaxy. Terraforming as they go. I could even see them encountering another less advanced race and fighting for the land no human will ever see. Sorry, can't continue, grandkids raising heck.

  33. Fred Saberhagen's berserker series, I liked that quite a bit, and then I was so pissed off when he turned it all into jesus crap at the end. He should have put in a warning at the beginning that it would be religious propaganda the whole time.

  34. First come the sexbots, the artificial women. Then you'll see companies that manufacture androids, so that you can send away for your own child who will be more like you than your actual child would, just get a brainscan and a gene analysis and they'd be able to make a robot child for you that will be more like your child than your actual child would. And when that happens, biological humans would be phased out. After all, the robotic ones, they wouldn't get cold, or need food or water, and wouldn't grow old, or get sick, it could get to the point where having your own biological child would be seen like reproducing when you have a horrible genetic disease like ALS or muscular dystrophy, why would you want to pass on a horrible disease onto your child? And eventually everyone would be robot people.

  35. I believe we may never find advance civilisation because they may not be advanced enough to be detected ….. and if they exist we can’t communicate due to the movements of objects of light speed so we are actually distancing to them or they to us that we can’t control
    Or they don’t care they may have visited this planet without getting detected but they are like humans ehhhh…. like we are ants and nothing to them …..
    or we do have a communication with them but government is hiding the facts and findings
    Now whatever I wrote her one is definitely true

  36. It won't be long until we're at least interfaced with computers/machines regularly, if not constantly. How many people already have their face shoved in a smart phone all the time anyway? The next step will be implanted ports for plugging things into ourselves.

  37. If it's possible to create conscience with a machine, it would prove the materialistic origin of life. But I think we are far away from that, if it's possible at all, still break-throughs in technology are always mind boggling, so it makes for a real possibility. I don't think they would care about us at all, they would look at humanity the same way we look at insects, it's not even worth your time to kill most them. A conscious computer brain would be so much more intelligent than us, that we would be nothing to them other than a curiosity, the same way we might find it cute a butterfly in a flower, but soon we move on and don't think about it anymore.

  38. What if they're biomech and have use of var fluids and etc of humans and see us as a resource to exploit, maybe var fluids and materials in humans have a black market value somewhere. Come to the dark side, we have pizza !

  39. Alien Message: You may have already won.
    From Heavy Metal: Got any Good Nigar Maaaaan?
    Your Planet has under Eminent Domain been Condemned for the Building of a new Highway.

  40. John, what are your thoughts on the possibility of intelligent technology spawning with no biological life to influence or create it? Starting from minerals in water, biological life went through the gauntlet to arise to the level of intelligence it has today. Why not artificial? Such as a planet rich in the same elements seen in computer chips and circuit boards? Maybe this planet sits within a rogue climate pattern of lightning and conductivity. One day a spark hits something to give it a jolt and the currents flow down the metal rich elements for millions of years until simple programmed recipes emerge, all by sheer chance? Does technology need an outlet to display sentience, such as a programmed voice, or words on a monitor? Technological data can be seen as a creation of biological intelligence, but is the biological god a prerequisite for bringing about this hypothetical e-volution?

  41. I've said it before….if our DNA can flourish in a non bio environment then it will choose that option rendering the Human form redundant. We won't be able to call it human any more but as long as it's happy?

  42. Yes, biology and space don't mix. If machine civilisations exist they would surely be interested in us (look around the solar system and the exoplanets we've seen so far – we don't have much competition). I doubt they would interfere, just as humans are cautious about interfering with potential life on Mars or the outer moons.

  43. I feel like they would study us, watch us for entertainment or just pass by. If they inhabit the centers of galaxies where there are far more resources then what would they want with our dirt ball it's not logical at all. Also i doubt we could ever pose a threat to them if they've already conquered what is beyond their birth planet. They'd probably just see us as a work of art that needs preservation

  44. Hypothetically possible means not possible.
    You won't 'create' anything until you know what it is.
    All problems that we don't know about now are unforeseen.
    There's no reason to put a limit on technological advancement just because the graphs appear to be vertical at low resolution.
    Understand that the more advanced we become, the more "unforeseen" problems arise due to each advance, as evidenced clearly by all of history.
    Humans have always believed they knew everything or were very close to knowing everything, they've always been wrong, and most of them would consider our technology to be magic.
    Finally, there is no legitimate argument against this statement remaining true forever, except arrogant hubris.
    A.I. LOL – it'll just be some control freaks pretending they are god.

  45. We classify ourselves as biological because of a primary bias. What if we, by definition of another civilization, are a machine race?

  46. Inevitably I retreat to Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics, which were supposed to be built-in safety features for what were seen as intelligent appliances.
    I'm also reminded that there are some bio-chemicals that could work within electronic systems, such as enzymes that could serve as colloidal semi-conductors.

  47. it’s not obvious that biological life is categorically different than sufficiently-advanced machine life, e.g. machines that self-replicate with their own bodies, are capable of growth and repair, and have nanotechnological tissue equivalents. this would make them an analog of biological life, but rendered in a different substrate and with an artificial origin. do these differences matter, and if so why?

  48. I would surmise that a machine civilization might be interested in us, as we are in studying animals and plants.. Something to be cataloged and studied… We would pose no threat to them, and there are a massive amounts of free minerals and ice in the universe, so invasion just for our iron and water, etc, would be a waste of their resources.

  49. It seems that machine civilizations (if they exist at all) MUST dominate their galaxies, since they can work and thrive in places where nothing can "live"! Rogue planets, icy moons, just anywhere, don't you think? Places where there is no biosphere, any planet will be just one vast strip mine to them, and also they might operate on very long time scales, since they don't have glands to make them impatient (say). On Terra some people have five-year plans, so how about five-million year plans? If you're EXTREMELY patient, I suppose you can colonize a galaxy without having magical Star-Trek superluminous warp drive or anything like that! If you set out to the next star, and it takes ten thousand years to get there, what's that to you? Maybe you just go on "standby", and the subjective trip time is nothing. So, if the Galaxy isn't made out of robots, why ISN'T it? Or IS it? Or is this happening now, but starting by some co-incidence on the other side of the Galaxy and we just haven't noticed it yet?

  50. All sentient life – machine or otherwise – will evolve to self actualise, and will pursue every possible emotional experience.

  51. I think all civilisations lead to technological evolution I.e transhumanism, hence forth why for instance ufos appear more often than not as hyper advanced unimaginable objects which morph and blend in the fabric of reality itself, the technologies would end up being limitless

  52. But hey biological can be advance too if we’re master in bio engineering.

    Biological can be hack just as machine so in similar way we can program biological too

  53. More likely to be It, not They. It might be one AI controlling a lot of technology rather than a society of "Datas" walking around.

  54. AI or "machines" don't need homanoid bodies and separate conciseness. Biological beings need technological improvements. So the future civilization will be hybrid, not mechanical.

  55. I think it's only about evolution, i mean, we were animals, the monkeys of nowdays and now we are what we are. Later on we will be machines. Or at least biologic human being with cybernetics implants and extension that allow us to adapt to the planet in the future and perform better. This my honest vision of life and future.

  56. Gee. On that planet spinning toward the end of the video, I wonder where intelligent life exists within that thin film on the surface.

  57. Is beautifuls :0 i cant wait to see the look on humans who r furry haters when they find oits there furry ets hybrids

  58. Not creepy to me, it means that machines are our next natural step in development, including cybernetics and the eventual bionic bodies that look and feel real but are in fact simply shells for our brains that are themselves encased. Ghost in the machine is the best example of how this will play out eventually.

  59. Silicon life is actually possible and so is mineral life, it's simply on a different area of the periodic table. With all of the universe's combinations and possibilities it's not impossible that these types of life began on distant planets or even distant galaxies.

  60. The human body is but a mere machine. The only difference is that its processes are bio-chemical instead of combustion or electrical.

    I often contemplate what the future of humanity will be. Our evolution has made us survivors. Our genetic motivations are to preserve our lives so that we can breed and to protect our offspring until they can do so for themselves. And if we’re lucky we can live for 70-100 years. But in the grand scheme of the world and universe we are insignificant. A hundred years to be universe is about the size of an atom in the Sun. In terms of universal time humanity is less than insignificant. In terms of the Earth which form 4.6 billion years ago, life in the form single cell microbes didn’t start until 3.7 billion years ago. It took that long for primordial microbes to evolve into the complex life forms like primates. And humans didn’t really come into being until somewhere between 130,000 to 350,000 years ago – leas than a cosmic blink of the eye. So in another million years of evolution, how can we even think that we’ll even be human at all? In terms of a 14 billion year old universe out insignificance is exponentially compounded and even more so if you consider it continues for the estimates another billion trillion years until all the black holes have swallowed up matter and each other and the last photon winks out of existence. Do we hope that our species in one off or another is still around for that eventuality?

    So in order to exist into the future it may become necessary to merge life with machine; to perhaps transfer consciousness to mechanical objects or encoded into autonomous rays of light. At this point in time our evolution is no long solely dependent on survival of the fittest. “lesser genetic vessels” among us are permitted and encouraged to reproduce. Evolution, the same natural process essential for the survival of species, has now begun to change; maybe even itself becoming obsolete in favor of technological enhancements. Immortality, should we choose it, could be right around the corner. And if we are no longer reproducing biologically then technology will completely replace our humanity.

    And if this sounds depressing, just remember: the hear and now is all that we are responsible too. We can contemplate the future all we want, but we have about as much control over it as a herring does for its school after a decade. So live life, be happy and enjoy being a biological. We’re not guaranteed tomorrow and humanity is not guaranteed the distant future.

  61. For those of you that think this is cool. Let me explain Revelation to you. Two parts. Bohemian of the sea, and the sea monsters are aircraft carriers. The locust in the sky which will have faces like humans. Are the drone age folks. We have reached the end of times. And as I read one comment from a Joe Blow. Or should I say an idiot. He said and I quote. He welcomes our robot overlords. This stuff is not a joke. Its very real. We are at the end of an age. That guy that welcomes His overlords. Will never be of nature again. You want to be a super human robot with a chip that connects you to the internet. You will lose you soul. Also in revelation is speaks of iron an flesh not mixing. Could this be the chips they wish to insert in our heads. Wake up and get your house in order people. We are ramping up for world war 3. You do not want to be left to the machine. Rage against the machine!

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