Hiphop Tamizha – #Tamizhi | Episode 5 | Indus Valley Civilization


Through discovering and deciphering Tamizh
Brahmi letters known as Tamizhi… the information about the kings from Sangam
era, who are mentioned in Sangam literatures… the ancient Tamizh people, their
traditions and way of living… were proved and retrieved
with strong evidences The most important thing above all this… it was found that history of Tamizh
people dated back to 2600 years Question the fact, if Tamizhi was indeed
originated as first script for Tamizh language… then the answer takes us thousands of years
back and thousands of kms way far away Come, let’s continue this journey Tamizhi The history might divide us by
religion, caste and race But Tamizh has never
paved for any division You are our heart, mind
and soul; hail Tamizhi! The fire that lights up
our creativity;Tamizhi Right from North India… Deccan plateau which is Maharashtra,
Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and Tamizh Nadu Including Sri Lanka In this region, during what they
call it as the ‘Iron age’ or… the ‘Copper age’, as it was
called in the Central India… a script was found everywhere
which is called as ‘Graffiti’ This graffiti… was exactly the same from
Gujarat till Sri Lanka Hence, instead of calling it ‘Graffiti’… it was believed by people and historians
that it is an undeciphered script The reason being that it was
found over a large landscape This is called as
‘Graffiti’ because… it is in contrast to Tamizhi letter i.e a
letter for every sound variation… and is a representation of Graffiti The ancient civilizations that
existed 5000 years ago… like the Egyptian, Mesopotamian and Indus
valley, the people who lived during then… had used such graffiti
to write their language Evidences that prove similar kind of
‘Graffiti’ existed before Tamizhi… was found all across South India So, when you look at it, could it be that
after a new script had arrived… the old graffiti was discarded? Or was the old graffiti developed
and became the new Brahmi script? It could only be decided later But while predicting the
era of this Graffiti… it is believed that it could be in
existence before Brahmi’s era The evidences that this Graffiti must have
been in use in Tamizh Nadu before Tamizhi… are found in exact same manner in archaeological
excavations carried all over Tamizh Nadu We use Stratigraphy analysis
while carrying out the excavation Based on the color change of the soil and the
materials found in them we predict their age Below the layer where
Tamizh Brahmi was found… in Kodumanal, the pot sherds
found in that below layer… had Graffiti in it We haven’t deciphered this Graffiti yet Further below pot sherds
without Graffiti were found Which means there was a time
when people were not educated In the layer above pot sherds
with Graffiti are found and… in the layer further above we find pot
sherds with Graffiti along with Tamizhi inscriptions And in the immediate layer above,
only Tamizhi inscriptions are found In last year’s excavation we
got more than 350 Graffiti 350 Graffiti with different variations We got one with an Arrow mark Graffiti One with Ladder One with Swastik design and
many more such variations We are still left with
many to be classified yet We have to classify all these 350 Graffiti
(Keezhadi 2014 – 16 excavation result) And now, this year too we have
retrieved around 300 – 400 Graffiti Some are found above the layer where
Brahmi inscriptions were found Some along the layer of Brahmi inscriptions And some below the layer where
Brahmi inscriptions were found We have to examine the percentage of
these Graffiti got from each layer Only after we examine
and get a result… we can predict the actual
growth of Tamizhi from Graffiti Apart from this, in excavations carried out
in other places like Vallam, Korkai… pot sherds with similar
kinds of Graffiti… were found in the layer below where
Brahmi inscriptions were found A question raised, whether to consider
it as script or as scratches Some said these are just symbols scratched
by the pot maker while making the pot The reason why it can’t be a symbol
scratched by the pot maker… From Gujarat, Maharashtra, Karnataka,
Tamizh Nadu and Sri Lanka… all over we found the
exact kind of Graffiti So there is no way a single pot maker
could have travelled all over and sold it So it can’t be the pot maker’s symbol There is also another evidence that it is
not pot maker’s symbol. The pot makers… the symbol can be scratched while
the pot maker is making the pot But these Graffiti were inscribed
on pot that was already made So, it could be inscribed by
those who brought these pots Another point here… If it was the pot maker’s trademark symbol
then you’d find the symbols in all pots This was not so Only the pot materials which
we call ‘Tablewares’ had them Like those you’ll find in a dining
table i.e a plate, a tumbler or a cup… Only these pot materials
had those Graffiti The Brahmi inscriptions were inscribed on
the pots where it was visible to everyone It was inscribed on the
shoulder portion of the pots These Graffiti too were
inscribed in the same manner Since these Graffiti were inscribed just like
Brahmi then it must be an important script Then this was not just
found on pot sherds… Graffiti found in pot sherds were also found
in inscriptions containing Tamizhi writings It was also found in coins Also in stamp seals For example a stamp seal that was found and
retrieved in Annaicoddai, Sri Lanka… On the top there was script
which was written in Graffiti And on the bottom it is written
as ‘Ko-ve-tha’ in Tamizhi Everyone believes the Graffiti above must
be same as what’s written on the bottom But a similar Graffiti… was found in a inscription in Edakkal,
Kerala that read ‘Kadummi pudachera’ So that Graffiti was found everywhere
when ‘Cheiftains’ were mentioned So everybody believes that these are no
ordinary symbols but some kind of script Also, in the end of many Brahmi
inscriptions these Graffiti are found It was found in lot of
pot sherds but why so? If it’s not a script
then why inscribe it? Also why should it be found
in Brahmi inscriptions? It was based on this, it was confirmed
that this Graffiti was indeed a script Based on the recent excavations that took
place in other places, it was confirmed Before the era of Tamizhi scripts
which is the 6th century BC… as the excavation results proved that
this Graffiti was used to write Tamizh… and it is the same one found
everywhere up to Gujarat It establishes a strong relationship
with Indus Valley civilization Graffiti Almost 5000 years ago, in
the North West India… from Gujarat, Pakistan
up to Afghanistan… from 2500 BC to 1600 BC… a civilization existed by the river Sindhu and
it was found via archaeological excavations (Lothal, Gujarat) (Dholavira, Gujarat) This was considered to be in contemporary
with Egyptian and Mesopotamian civilization Also a lot of evidences were got that proved
it was a huge trade oriented civilization Cities with tall brick constructions
with a planned urban architecture… and they had a unique script
to exchange messages… and carry out trade
exchanges among themselves This script called Sindhu
is not alphabetic… but contained lot of Graffiti What was the language used by people
in Indus Valley civilization? How did they write script? No one has an assured answer by
just looking at those evidences Still a lot of research is going on that But… within few days after Marshall
announced this discovery in 1924… many researchers looked at it and
said it could be Dravidian language Though these Graffiti are
yet to be deciphered… but the language spoken back then could
be a type of Dravidian language and… they could have used the
Graffiti to write it Many researchers like Asko
Parpola and Heras predicted so Collecting the cluster of stamp
seals and their Graffiti… then examining them
using Statistical analysis.. it forms a structure Tamizh has more of suffixes In ‘Munda’ language there are infixes
which comes in between the words Indo-Aryan languages have prefixes One attribute that just belongs to
Dravidian languages are the suffixes So the Indus Valley civilization
Graffiti seemed to have suffixes… which we get to know from the
concordance and computer analysis Even when Iravatham Mahadevan did his research
and published in his hypothesis that… Rig veda itself has a lot of Tamizh words So, Rig veda was compiled in Pakistan and
Afghanistan, which is Western part of South Asia In that case… when Rig veda has lot of Tamizh words then
what language could’ve been spoken there? This is one of the evidences Ancient people who lived during
Indus Valley civilization… could have spoken ancient Tamizh, for which
evidences kept rising and at the same time… most of the Graffiti
found in Tamizh Nadu… were same as Graffiti found
in Indus Valley civilization And researchers were awestruck by this fact ([L]Tamizh Nadu Graffiti – [R] Indus Valley Graffiti) The Graffiti in Indus
Valley civilization and… the Graffiti in Tamizh Nadu… both are almost same More than 60% of Tamizh Graffiti
resemble the Indus Valley Graffiti Since both are almost same… then Indus Valley Graffiti would’ve
been transformed into Tamizh Graffiti This was already stated
by Dr. BB Lal in 1960 The findings that came
after his statement… only complimented his statement Indus Valley Graffiti must have
developed as Tamizh Graffiti… Then Tamizh Nadu Graffiti must have developed
into Tamizhi. This is what everyone believes Tamizh Nadu Graffiti was obtained as the
continuation of Indus Valley Graffiti Not just that, in the archaeological
excavations that took place in Tamizh Nadu… continuity and links to Indus
Valley civilization were found Researchers were even
more awestruck by this The first thing we did was measure
up this archaeological mount So when we measured it last year… we found it to be 80 acres in land
and 3.5 kilometers radius sized mount This year while carrying out the excavation
we examined the mount completely… that’s when we found that… like in Harappa and Indus
it was a twin mount system For example the excavation
in Adichanallur… The skull that was obtained
from Adichanallur excavation… it was examined using chemical analysis And it was found to
be buried in 1750 BC That means it had a link to
Indus valley civilization The Indus Valley civilization
ended in 1500 BC And since this was found in 1750 BC then
chances are there must have been a link When the civilization went extinct,
where did the people go? Most of the evidences point
that people moved towards South Even Migratory studies and place name
studies might be helpful in script research In Place name studies done by Mr. R. Balakrishnan,
he delivers many strong evidences… If you see the comparison made in it… Like the names of places in Pakistan
and in Sangam literature… The names of the places in
present day Tamizh Nadu… they are all the same For eg. places like Korkai, Vanji and Thondi.
He finds places with same name in Pakistan He also found a place called Tamizh! So, even today if you search in Google… you can get information about those places When you see the names of
those places… you’ll find lot of evidences i.e. the names
will be a series gradually moving to the south The same names will keep repeating Finally it ends up in Tamizh
Nadu as a cluster of names So when you compare the names of the
places in Tamizh Nadu and Pakistan… they are the same Especially in Pakistan, Afghanistan
and Baluchistan, the Brahui language… is a Dravidian language and is
still in use in modern day The distance between these two
places is 2500 kilometers… but they speak almost the
same language group… This is one of the strong evidences
(Dravidian language group) People from Indus Valley civilization… could be Dravidian people who spoke
proto Dravidian language and… they could have been migrated to South after
the extinction of the civilization… Using Linguistic Population
Distribution study… DD Kosambi and others historians
supported the statement The research findings of
Mr. Balakrishnan IAS… strongly support those evidences But since the Indus valley
Graffiti are yet to be deciphered… to prove this with more evidences, we
needs more researches… and more archaeological
excavations must be carried out If more excavations are done and
these Graffiti are deciphered… then Tamizh language’s script and history of
Tamizh people could date back to 5000 years On one hand as the research about the script
that existed before Tamizhi continues… the question of how this Tamizhi script
transformed into the present day Tamizh script… is one of the most important question When the reason behind why it transformed
into the present day script was analyzed… there were shocking
historical events behind it Let’s continue this journey… Tamizhi All religions are welcome here The Tamizh boon! The Tamizh bond! We all are the
children of this world Hail Tamizhi! For it’s our
way, our life and our bond Long live Tamizh All religions are welcome here The Tamizh boon! The Tamizh bond! We all are the
children of this world Hail Tamizhi! For it’s our
way, our life and our bond Long live Tamizh Our mother tongue is what unites us Our mother tongue is our life Oh my dear Tamizh, you are my strength Grandham was developed from
Southern Brahmi or Andhra Brahmi They created new Tamizh script
with Grandham’s influence on it That is the present day Tamizh
script which we are using So, after the era of King Narasimhan
a new Tamizh script is established




Comments
  1. Guys please watch a video Tamizhan history in my channel.. I have explained this concept in layman terms before hip hop anna started this thamizhi episodes…Adhi anna great salute to you…spent lot of efforts in this topic and we are gaining deep knowledge by this..

  2. தமிழ் vs சம்ஸ்கிருத நீண்ட நெடு நாளாக பகை

  3. வாழ்த்துக்கள் அண்ணா. உங்கள் பணி தொடர வேண்டும் 🥰🌸🌺🌸🌺👌👌❤💛

  4. Ur video good i support but so many problem comparaitive study u can change this video because indus valley civilisation studied dr mathivanan 5000script so ir change ur video only 3 professor only come video only ur can do. Ur talk to dr mathivanan sir all script was studied

  5. தமிழி ,,பகை வளர்த்திட எம்மொழி உதவாது..⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  6. Anna keeladi is in sivagangai dist mention that and pls not near Madurai ….we sivagangaians want to hear keeladi from svg ….pls mention the district

  7. கோவை ஒசூர் சேலம் திருச்சி இந்த ஊர்களில் தமிழ் விளம்பரம் பலகைகள் இல்லை இதற்கு ஏதாவது செய்ய வேண்டும்

  8. தமிழர்கள் தெற்கிருந்து வடக்கு சென்றவர்கள்‌. தமிழர்களின் பூர்வீகம் குமரிக்கண்டம்‌. தென்னாட்டுடைய சிவனே போற்றி என்ற வாசகத்தை நினைவில் கொள்ளுங்கள். ஆழிப்பேரலையால் குமரிக்கண்டத்திலிருந்து தமிழன் பல்வேறு நாடுகளுக்கு சென்று நாகரிகத்தை உருவாக்கினான். அதில் உருவானதே சுமேரியம் எகிப்து மாயன் மற்றும் சிந்து சமவெளி நாகரிகம். தமிழன் வடக்கிருந்து தெற்கு வந்தான் என்பது மிகத் தவறான கூற்று. இதில் திராவிட சாயம் உள்ளது.

  9. Coin of the Yaudheyas with depiction of Kumāra Karttikeya, 1st century BCE, Punjab;written in Brahmi….
    so does goddess belief exists b4 Brahmi language?

  10. En tamilnadu map ah katringa. Thenindia mulusa thana. Tamil ku iruka adaiyalam neenga map kattum bothu namma ellaikulla nu surungidumo. Oru suggestion. Great work. Indians.

  11. DID YOU KNOW ? SHIVA'S another name is RUDHRA , Ruthran name is also stolen from Tamil.
    Uruva + Thiran means Uruthiran, Ruthiran. Creative + Skilled meaning creator. Brahmins made it short Ruthran or Rudhran, Rudhra, Rudhr but still showed him as Destroyer God to show him in bad light but cleverly replaced his greatness with one more imaginary creator God from abroad alien race and called him Brahma. They looted our own Peria Amanar , Piramanar title , Aasary title as Achari. Now they are trying to steal Tiruvalluvar just like they stole Vishnu, Krishnan, Vee Aasary siddhar ( Top most Learned man) into Vyasa, Vaanmeegar Siddhar as Valmiki.

  12. என்ன சொல்லவறிங்க வடக்கிலிருந்து தமிழ் தமிழர்கள் இங்கு வந்தாங்கனு சொல்றிங்கலா ஆதி…?? பாதி பொய் செய்தி… உண்மை ஆராயுங்கள் ஆதி

  13. தயவு செய்து எல்லோரும் தங்களது கை தொலைப்பேசிளே,,,, தமிழ் எழுத்து கீ பொர்ட்‌ பதிவிரக்கம் செஞ்சு கமெண்ட்ஸ் போடுங்க.. மா‌ற்ற‌ம் நீங்களே உருவாக்குங்க…. Hmmmm

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  15. இவை அனைத்தையும் ஆங்கிலம் மற்றும் இந்தி மொழியில் மொழிபெயர்க்கப்பட்டால் அனைவருக்கும் சென்றடையும்.

  16. வெள்ளைக்கார மிஸினரி திக நாய்கள் இருக்கும்வரை நம்மை தமிழனாக நம்பெருமையை மீட்டெடுக்கவும் விடமாட்டார்கள் … தமிழன் எதிரிகளால் வீழ்ந்ததைவிட துறோகிகளால் வீழ்ந்ததே அதிகம் ! விழித்திடு தமிழா ..

  17. தொண்டி யை பற்றி இதில் பேசிருக்கீங்க தொண்டி ல தமிழ் மாதிரி சில வார்த்தைகள் வழக்கத்தில் இருக்கு அது தொண்டி பாச னு சொல்வார்கள் அந்த வார்த்தைகள் தொண்டி காரர்களுக்கு மட்டுமே தெரியும் இதுக்கும் அதுக்கும் சம்பந்தம் இருக்குமோ னு எனக்கு சந்தேகம்

  18. அருமை அண்ணா…. சிறு ஐயம் சிந்து வெளி மக்கள் குஜராத் முதல் பாக்கிஸ்தான் ஆப்கானிஸ்தான் வரை கிமு 2500முதல்1600 என்று செல்கிறார்கள் ஆனால் படக்காட்சியில் கிமு 2500முதல் 3000அப்படி என்று உள்ளது… புரியவில்லை…. ஆதி அண்ணா

  19. ithai pontra nangu arayapatta seithigalai varisaiyaga ontran pin ontraga thezhivaga thoguthu vazhanginaal mattume tamizhar varalaaru velirkunara mudiyum.

  20. நீங்க சொல்றத வச்சு பாத்தா.. சிந்து சமவெளி ல இருந்து இடம்பெயர்ந்து வந்தவர்கள் தான் தமிழர்கள் ஆ..? 🤔

  21. I am a archeologist from Ireland. keezadi findings are one of the oldest ever found in South Asia. No doubt. but it's too early to come to a conclusion right now.. international community doesn't take expert opinion or statements on assumption as scientific evidence…
    I think we have to let the research finish completely and then submit their findings completely after that with evidence we can prove whole world that tamizi is one of the oldest and celebrate it …. We should also understand there are findings found in Egypt dating several 100 years before tamizi findings.. so to say only Tamil was the oldest in the world is factually incorrect. .

  22. Tamilagam thana pazhamaiana nagaram naadu inam.apram anga irunthu epdi Inga vanthanga. Nama thana mootha kudi. Inga thana nagarigam thondruchu.ipo anga irunthu Inga vanthanga sonna enna artham confusing u r????

  23. மிக அருமையான முயற்சி . ஒரு வேண்டுகோள் ….. இந்த vedios ல english subtitle சேர்த்தால் இந்தியா மற்றும் உலக அளவில் தமிழின் பெருமை தெரிய வரும்
    … நன்றி

  24. கி.மு.1750 ஆண்டின் பிறகு தான் கி.மு 1500..
    கி.மு வில் வருடங்கள் இறங்கு வரிசையில் தான் கணக்கிடப்படும்

  25. மட்பாண்டம் செய்பவர்கள் மட்டுமே, அவைகளை விற்பனை செய்தார்கள். அவர்களை தவிர வேறு எவரும் மட்பாண்டம் விற்கும் தொழிலலை செய்யவில்லை. நான் மண்பாண்டத் தொழில் செய்பவர்களின் வழி வந்த என் தாத்தா பாட்டி மற்றும் பெற்றோர்கள் சொல்லி கேட்டிருக்கிறேன்.

  26. தயவுசெய்து "தமிழ் சிந்தனையாளர் பேரவை" சன்னலை பார்க்கவும் Tamil chinthanaiyalar peravai

  27. பாகிஸ்தான ஏன்டா இழுக்கறிங்க. அது நமது எதிரிநாடு பாரத் மாதாக் கீ ஜே

  28. என் தாய் மொழி தெலுங்கு, தெலுங்கின் தாய் தமிழே. தமிழும் எனது தாயே 'தமிழ் எனை அரவணைத்த தாய் அவள், நான் சரணைடைந்த தெய்வம் அவள்' வணங்குகிறேன் அவள் பாதத்தை

  29. பிராமி எழுத்துக்கள் பிரமணரர்களை குறிக்குமா ஐயத்தை போக்காகும்

  30. If the symbol is present at the last of the all the words means, why can't it may be a, "name or symbol of a particular person, like (written by)"?.
    Is my assumption is write or wrong?

  31. இந்த நூற்றாண்டில் கீழடி என்றால் பல்லாயிர ஆண்டுகளுக்கு பிறகும் ஒரு ஆராய்ச்சி நடந்தாலும் அங்கே கிடைக்கும் ஒரு மொழி தமிழாகத்தான் இருக்கும்

  32. Athi bro & team really good effort 👍🏼content & informations all good… voice presentation little lag i am feeling… if possible pls consider

  33. #baycotthiphopaadhi

    https://youtu.be/yZfQ-XZYRaE

    'தமிழி' எனும் பெயரில் ஹிப்ஹாப் ஆதி ஒவ்வொரு வாரமும் பதிவிடும் இந்தக் காணொளி சிறிது சிறிதாக தமிழர்களின் வரலாற்றில் நஞ்சு கலப்பது போன்று உள்ளது. குறிப்பாக இந்தக் காணொளியில் தமிழ் மொழி என்கிற வார்த்தைக்குப் பதிலாக திராவிடமொழி என்பதையே அதிகம் பயன்படுத்துகிறார். தமிழ் மக்கள் சிந்து சமவெளி பகுதியில் இருந்து தமிழகத்திற்கு இடம் பெயர்ந்திருக்கலாம் என்பதை பதிவு செய்ய மிகவும் விரும்புகிறார். இவரின் இந்த காணொளிகளை ஆரம்பம் முதலே கவனித்து வருகிறேன். அவர் தமிழ், தமிழர்களின் கலாசாரத்தை திராவிட கலாச்சாரம் என்று நிலைநாட்ட நினைப்பது உறுதியாக தெரிகிறது. தமிழ் மொழி எழுத்துக்களின் வரலாறு ஆறாம் நூற்றாண்டுக்குப் பிறகு தான் என்பதை அழுத்தமாக குறிப்பிடுகிறார் . எதன் அடிப்படையில் சொல்கிறார் என்று தெரியவில்லை. தமிழர்களின் வரலாறை வடக்கிலிருந்து தேட முயல்கிறார். சிந்து சமவெளி மக்கள் வடக்கில் இருந்து தமிழகத்திற்கு வந்து இருக்கலாம், அவர்களே தமிழர்கள் என்பதை நிரூபிக்க நினைக்கும் அவர் , 5,000 முதல் 10,000 ஆண்டுகள் வரை வரலாறு கொண்ட குமரிக்கண்ட வரலாற்றினை பற்றி துளிகூட பேசவில்லை. என்னை பொருத்தவரை ஆதியின் முழு காணொளி தொகுப்பும் தமிழ் கலாசாரத்தை திராவிட கலாச்சாரம், தமிழர்களை வடக்கிலிருந்து வந்தவர்கள் என மக்கள் மனதில் பதிய வைக்கும் நோக்கிலேயே உள்ளது. ஒரு பழம்பெருமை வாய்ந்த இனத்தின் வரலாற்றை வெளிக்கொண்டு வர நினைக்கும் இந்த ஆராய்ச்சிக்கு பெரிய அர்ப்பணிப்பு உணர்வும் , ஆய்வுத் தகுதியும், அறிவுத் தகுதியும் தேவை. நிச்சயமாக # Hip Hop ஆதியிடம் அந்தத் தகுதிகள் துளியும் இல்லை. மேலும் இதுபோன்ற காணொளிகள் பதிவேற்றம் செய்வதை உடனே நிறுத்த வேண்டும். இவர் மீது துறை சார்ந்தவர்கள் தக்க நடவடிக்கை எடுக்க வேண்டும். தமிழர்களின் வரலாற்றை வெற்று விளம்பரத்திற்காக ஆராய்ச்சி செய்வதை அனுமதிக்க முடியாது.இதுபோன்ற ஆய்வு செய்பவர்களுக்கு அடிப்படை கல்வித்தகுதி, துறை சார்ந்த தகுதி, ஆராய்ச்சித் தகுதிகள் வேண்டும்

  34. This is one of the stupidest theory ever made. People from indus valley settled in tamil nadu? Wtf! seems to be other way around. Two different races. One stupid theory. One of the poorest episode of this series.

  35. உலகத்தின் முதல் தமிழ் தான் aatharam irudhalum sari illa nallalum sari

  36. தமிழ் தாய் மண்ணில் பிறக்க தவம் செய்ய வேண்டும்…. எம் முன்னர் செய்த புண்ணியம் நான் இம் மணில் பிறந்தேன்…

  37. I don't go with Dravidian language deception. Call it Tamil, plus people migrated from south to north and not vice versa.

  38. தமிழி தொடா் பற்றி ௭ங்௧ள் தமிழ் ஆசிரியரிடம் கூறினேன்
    அவா் தமிழி தொடரை ௭ங்கள் பள்ளியில் திரையிடுவதாக கூறினார்
    நம் தமிழ் மொழியை பற்றி அனைத்து மாணவர்களும்
    அறிந்துகொள்ள தமிழி தொடர்
    உதவும் ௭ன்றாா்
    தங்களது முயற்சியை பாராட்டினாா்

  39. Aaathi is telugu…he married Lakshiya Devareddy….so his intention is to destroy Tamil..like Radha Ravi..tamils are muttals. They do not understand all these people intention.

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