Gowdy: My ‘wildly unpopular’ opinion on Andy McCabe’s case


IS ACTUALLY MUCH MORE TO THIS STORY. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS SAID THAT HIMSELF, SO LET’S BRING IN TREY GOWDY, FORMER HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN AT FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR, GOOD EVENING TO YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. WHAT’S YOUR REACTION TO THE NEWS THAT HIS APPEAL WAS REJECTED?>>TWOFOLD AND ONE OF THEM WILL BE WILDLY UNPOPULAR, BUT I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO SAY IT. NUMBER ONE IS THE CELEBRATION OF OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM WHERE YOU CAN BE THE SECOND IN COMMAND AT THE WORLD’S PREMIER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND STILL BE SUBJECT TO INVESTIGATION AND POTENTIALLY INDICTMENT THEM OR WHETHER YOU ARE SECOND IN COMMAND OF THE FBI OR WORKING THE SECOND SHIFT AT A MANUFACTURING PLANT IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THE BLINDFOLDED WOMAN DOESN’T CARE WHO YOU ARE. THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE CELEBRATED FOR — NOW FOR THE WILDLY POPULAR PART. HE’S PRESUMED INNOCENT. I KNOW IT’S NOT POPULAR TO SAY IN A POLITICAL CONTEXT. IF IT’S NOT, BUT HE’S PRESUMED INNOCENT AND EVEN IF HE IS INDICTED, THE INDICTMENT IS NO EVIDENCE OF A CRIME. HE IS ENTITLED TO PRESENT HIS CASE IN FRONT OF 12 OF HIS FELLOW CITIZENS AND, LOOK, I KNOW POLITICS DOESN’T REWARD FAIRNESS, BUT OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM NEEDS TO SURVIVE LONG PAST THE POLITICAL VAGARIES. AND IT IS IMPORTANT, JUST LIKE IT WAS WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP WHEN I WAS VERY TOUGH ON DEMOCRATS LIKE ADAM SCHIFF THAT WANTED TO PUT HIM IN JAIL, BEFORE THE MUELLER REPORT HAD EVER BEEN ISSUED. I’M GOING TO BE CONSISTENT. IF I’M WRONG UNRELEASED CONSISTENTLY WRONG.>>Martha: I COMMEND YOU ON THAT AND THAT’S THE WAY WE HAVE APPROACHED THIS AS WELL. HOWEVER, AS WE JUST PLAYED, ANDREW MCCABE HAS NOT GIVEN THE SAME TREATMENT TO PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHO DID GO THROUGH A TWO-YEAR PROCESS OF INVESTIGATION AND HE CONTINUES TO GO ON TELEVISION AND ACCUSE OF POTENTIALLY BEING A RUSSIAN AGENT. BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU SOMETHING ABOUT — BECAUSE IT’S A LITTLE CONFUSING. THE LEAK THAT HE GAVE, OSTENSIBLY, ALLEGEDLY, TO “THE WALL STREET JOURNAL,” WAS ESSENTIALLY A LEAK THAT APPEARS IT MAY HAVE BEEN DONE IN AN EFFORT TO SORT OF SPIN THINGS HIS WAY, TO MAKE HIM LOOK VERY FAIR THAT HE WAS CONTINUING TO THE CLINTON INVESTIGATION WHILE THEY WERE LOOKING INTO THESE ISSUES WITH REGARD TO THE PRESIDENT AS WELL. SO THE QUESTION IS WHY. WHY WOULD HE FEEL, IF HE FELT THAT HE WAS BEING FAIR ON BOTH SIDES, THAT HE NEEDED TO DO THAT TO PROTECT HIS IMAGE?>>SELF-INTEREST. HE LIED TO MICHAEL HOROWITZ’S INVESTIGATORS BECAUSE HE LEAKED SOMETHING THAT WAS IN HIS BEST INTEREST AND CAST HIM IN THE BEST LIGHT POSSIBLE. IT’S THE OLDEST MOTIVE KNOWN TO MAN, WHICH IS SELF-INTEREST. SO WHEN YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TELL THE TRUTH — HE HAD AN OPTION, HE COULD HAVE NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION, HE COULD HAVE INVOKED THE FIFTH.>>Martha: WORTH POINTING OUT THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT FOUR SEPARATE OCCASIONS. FOUR SEPARATE OCCASIONS WHEN HE SAID THAT THEY MISLED THEM.>>TO WHERE HE AFFIRMATIVELY LIED AND TWO WHERE HE HAD A LACK OF CANDOR WHICH AS YOU HAVE INFORMATION, YOU HAVE A DUTY TO DISCLOSE IT AND YOU FAIL TO DO SO. SO BOTH LYING AFFIRMATIVELY AND THEN FAILING TO TELL THE TRUTH WHEN HE HAD AN OBLIGATION TO DO SO.>>Martha: WE DON’T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT HIS NAME IS GOING TO BE INTERTWINED INTO THE REPORTS THAT ARE STILL TO COME OUT, THE LARGER REPORT FROM THE INSPECTOR GENERAL MICHAEL HOROWITZ AND THEN JOHN DURHAM’S REPORT, AS AN ATTORNEY, STATE STATE’S ATTORNEY REPORT THAT’S COMING OUT, BUT BILL BARR, WHO HAS SEEN MORE OF THESE DOCUMENTS AND YOU HAVE SEEN MORE OF THEM AS WELL, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE, SAID THIS ABOUT WHAT’S TO COME.>>YES, I THINK SPYING DID OCCUR. I’M NOT GOING TO SPECULATE ABOUT WHAT HE SAID, WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT WHEN IT STARTED. SOME OF THE EXPLANATIONS I’VE GOTTEN DON’T HANG TOGETHER SO IN A SENSE I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS TODAY THAN I DID WHEN I FIRST STARTED.>>Martha: YOU SAID BACK IN MAY WATCH THE EMAILS BETWEEN BRENNAN AND CLAPPER, CORRECT?>>BRENNAN AND COMEY.>>Martha: BRENNAN AND COMEY, EXCUSE ME. CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT?>>WELL, I MEAN, WE ARE IN DECEMBER OF 2016. THIS IS WELL AFTER THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION HAD BEEN LAUNCHED BY PETER STRZOK IN CASE ANYBODY HAS FORGOTTEN THAT NAME. WELL AFTER THE FIRST FISA, PROBABLY AFTER THE RENEWAL, AND HERE’S JIM COMEY CONCEDING THAT THE DOSSIER IS UNVERIFIED, IT’S NEVER BEEN CORROBORATED AND YET IT’S BEING USED IN COURT FILINGS AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE COURT WAS NEVER TOLD IT WAS NOT CORROBORATED, BUT AGAIN, I THINK BILL BARR WOULD TELL YOU THE SAME THING, IF HE WAS ON THE SHOW, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOING A REALLY LOUSY JOB BUT THERE’S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOT MEETING ANYONE’S EXPECTATIONS FOR PUBLIC SERVICE, AND THEN BEING INDICTED. I WILL CAUTION MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS AGAIN, IF THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO SATISFY YOU IS THE INDICTMENT OF CERTAIN HIGH-LEVEL OFFICIALS, YOU MAY WIND UP BEING DISAPPOINTED. I HAVE HIGHER EXPECTATIONS FOR GOVERNMENT AND JUST NARROWLY AVOIDING INDICTMENT. IF>>Martha: I HEAR YOU AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE INTELLIGENCE AREA BELIEVE THE




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  1. So ridiculous. You cant have it both ways… To say that he is guilty of doing those crimes but then to say he has the presumption of innocence?

    Like others have said, he is Democrat and our justice system has 2 sets of laws, one for Democrats and one for Republicans. And now they want to take our guns?

  2. Oh, but Kavanagh was treated guilty till proven innocent! Why is it, all these Demotards can do whatever they want; lie, withhold evidence, leak classified info, etc. and it's just business as usual.
    President Trump; DRAIN THE SWAMP!

  3. The two tier justice system is still in effect to day, Lady justice takes off the blind fold for the rich and powerful, while the rest of us would have the full wraith of her gavel come down on us, if we were caught in these kind of crimes and scandals!

  4. I'm discusted that this traitor will get off Scott free , he's not innocent and the proof is there beyond a shadow of doubt! This is nothing like when the currupt bed wetting whining libral baby snowflakes called the democrats, president Trump was set up and you Dam well know it ! Your such a disappointment to patriots across the country , you defended the FBI knowing what they did was the biggest scandle : political attack ; you have destroyed your reputation and it's sickening!

  5. If they did this to a democrat president they would have already been tried and convicted but you spineless republicans are afraid of the currupt partisan lieing libral meadia but hey guess what they still attack republicans and cover up for the democrats and they cover up for any currupt government officials who have gone after our President for the last four year !

  6. The comments are pathetic, there are no charges because there is NO CRIME, you clowns on the right think things are crimes because Fox noise has OPINION people on that tell you its a crime when it ISN"T, just like with Clinton

  7. Thank you Trey! You care about justice! How sad that many in Congress want to protect those who break the law. Comey, Struck, McCabe, all committed crime. Why does one party get away with so much?? ☹️👎

  8. Going to the guy who couldn't lay a finger on the Clintons shows your desperation trumptards….next thing you'll drag out Newt Gingrich and Glenn Beck…..😂😂😂😂😂

  9. Two tiered justice will incite public outrage which can lead to anarchy. Be careful on this one because if everything gets slapped on the wrist people might start doing bad things because if others can do it and get off so can we.

  10. In What circumastances do a military tribunal apply? I am concerned that members of a jury will too easily be bribed or threatened in a case like this.

  11. It will be interesting if McCabe is the only person held accountable. He was the only "actual" career FBI person involved. The rest were politicians like Comey who set the hoax in motion. It needs to be asked if McCabe was merely following orders. He may have been acting improperly, but he wasn't the originator of the conspiracy. Indicting McCabe and trying him for "protocol" violations may allow the politicians appointed to FBI management positions to escape accountability.

  12. Gowdy wasted literally years on a "probe" that went nowhere trying to start something else? Only for the 33% great unwashed (sic … Chump supporters) FOAD, Gowdy!!!

  13. Maybe we need to change It for career politicians, you gotta wonder how most have become millionaires on 175K a year 🤔 so I gotta ask is it unethical for them to line their pockets while in office for………

  14. The FBI and the DOJ still have many swamp creatures that need the be eradicated,many in the DOJ are still protecting Hillary and obstructing justice and Wray is hiding information too.President Trump needs to fire these people personally..

  15. Let's cut to the chase the Washington beltway elite and burcrateds of both parties will make sure not much comes of this. There will be a little window dressing by both parties but that is about it! Simple our government and both parties a corrupt! Oh but if this was a nobody citizen that was being accused of such charges these same group of people would demand the hammer of the law be fully drop on them.

  16. Hahahaha it's funny when the slaves think the laws apply to the masters!!!
    They are so lucky Americans are beyond stupid!!! Ever wonder how America ends? Hahahahahaha!!!!!

  17. Why do you have a guest on and ask him a question then interrupt him before he completely answers it? You people do this all of the time then when it is over we still don’t have an answer.

  18. Well, it looks like McCabe committed suicide, oh yes he did ! it just hasn’t been reported by mainstream media yet, Hillary said she saw him do it 😏. Wonder who will be the next suicide.

  19. So, Trey Gowdy, you say McCabe is innocent until proved guilty then go on to say he lied. Contradicting yourself much? Barr has already pre-emptively declared 'spying did occur'. So the right has already made its mind up. WITCH HUNT! Flynn is in jail and for good reasons. Trying to kidnap and send to Turkey, at the behest of the Turkish prime minister and being pad for same, a Turkish dissident is not a crime? Being paid vast sums to appear at banquets in Moscow and give speeches for Putin's Russia may not be a crime but… And if he had nothing to hide, why did he lie to the FBI? The FBI did indeed have plenty of reasons to investigate many of Teflon's Team. Almost comical levels of criminality appeared to be occurring. Remember the odious chant Lock her up! with Flynn leading the crowd? How it became Lock him up? Be careful what you wish for.

  20. Give the whole cabal of coup plotters fair trials then lock them all up for 20 years each , the damage they have done to the country is staggering the repercussions of which will continue for many years to come , McCabe, Comey and all the people in positions of power that they abused for political reasons need to be held accountable.

  21. This Gowdy is a big bulshiter of note. The evidence is clear . The problem lies in the justice system and people like Trey Gowdy!

  22. Gowdy is a law man….he has a point. But we all know where the evidence lies. McCabe should be indicted along with others involved.

  23. Maybe Gowdy could comment about why the Grand Jury balked at indicting McCabe? I don't think you'll hear about that on Fox News(sic).

  24. I have no problem with presumption of innocence. I do have a problem with the two tier justice system. When Hillary Clinton can thumb her nose at America with an “art exhibit” portraying herself at the desk of the commander in chief reading her e-mails, justice is not blind!

  25. I am absolutely sick of capitulation to the leftists ubiquitous defense of plausible deniability. People aren't as stupid or as willingly ignorant as you choose to believe. Grow a backbone and send these traitors to the gallows. Justifiable retribution will eventually find all statists no matter what label they try to camouflage themselves with. Good people outnumber them and have God on their side.

  26. /// clearly McCabe doesn’t have the same power as Epstein’s customers. But in the end he will get away with it. Pony and dog show continues.

  27. Trey? So much for the great prosecutor. You preached fire and brimstone but continued to carry the water for the deep state. Still doing it I see. Cant stand to see your corrupt old buddies get busted I guess. Remember when you told the President to "act Innocent" while he was being framed and railroaded? BS Dont trust you anymore. It's sad really!!

  28. We have higher expectations too,not to indict just some that are guilty .How about All that are guilty of Treasonous actions in D.C.

  29. LOCK HIM UP! along with ALL the other democratic scum that broke the law starting with hillary the scum clinton! we shall see if there really is a blind justice system! so far it has proven not to be true, there are so many dems walking the streets that should be in jail!

  30. Get use to it there will be no equal justice. There never was, but on a lighter side it's as close to reality as it ever has been before given we're able to discuss it here without retaliation from the powerful.

  31. I understand everyone is upset with are elected officials, but they change over time, too slowly for sure, but change they do.
    The Civil Servants NEVER LEAVE! Some have worked in the Bureaucracy for GENERATIONS! They are the Deep State.

  32. Trey gowdy is in with the bastards destroying this country. I’ve watched this man for years and seen no results from anything he’s ever done. Gowdy is all sizzle and no steak.

  33. It's not only lying and leaking they
    were trying to deny the rights of the citizens and put in their choice
    for president. Taking over the government is a treasonous offence, let's call it what it is. This includes Comey, Strzok, Page and
    The rest of the corrupted FBI, DOJ and Glenn Simpson, Nelly and Bruce Ohr, Fusion GPS, Hillary, Obummer and his administration, the whole lying, spying and treasonous former government.

  34. Who can really say that any American can trust their Congress or agencies such as DOJ, FBI, and IRS? It would be great to absolutely clean house and move the Government out of Washington. If you can't drain the Swamp then move away.

  35. Bill Barr is just like Jeff Sessions WORTHLESS !!
    None of these traitors will ever wear orange.
    Barr will see to that already let Comey walk !!

  36. the only way to sway opinions of those against trump and for communism is to indict and prosecute these assholes. none of the liberal media will cover anything else, and the lock step liberals read and watch nothing but. so, yes, if after all this money that was spent in trying to convict trump actually turns out, was a crime committed by the hillary party, and no convictions of these players: comey, clapper, strock, clinton, obama, brutus, etc., i'm gonna be pissed.

  37. David Alen says Tray Goudy us razor sharpHe is razor sharp , then that means that when he ended his 8 and over 50 inquiries into the Bengize situation that later became the email security issue.
    Which look like small potatoes when you see all the security breaches tramp has allowed.
    Also I'm wondering how you feel about our defense agancy.
    Do you believe it when tramp says that it was Iran who attacked the oil fields of Saudi Arabia.

  38. Trey, if the feds can attempt to rig our election and only history will punish them, the justice system u hold in such high regard is a joke. A two tired system is worse than no system at all, and that is what we have. Stop hiding from the obvious with lofty rhetoric. We're tired of it.

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