Capitalist Work Place Vs Socialist Work Place



imagine you are an average worker you live in an industrial city and you need to cover the costs of your basic requirements that being food and rent to do this you need a way of getting money your only real option to do this is to get a job at the local factory as you were not born into a family that could pay for your education so you need to go into unskilled labor as your family could not afford education they also did not have much to leave you in terms of inheritance so you have no real capital to jump off of and try and start your own business or buy your own factory in order to eat you must take a job under an employer so you go to the factory and start working during your time working at the factory you were told where to work how long to work how to work and you are not allowed to interact with any other workers on the production line all of these decisions are made by the employer and are made in such a way to maximize profit you must abide by these rules and any other rules at the Empire mypace upon you because if you don't you will lose your job at the end of the day you receive a wage for your work which roughly matches the cost to provide your basic requirements but here's the thing you've essentially been stolen from your employer has made a profit by selling your labor on the market and giving you a portion of that back to you in the form of a wage but not all of it the employer did not contribute any labor to the production of the factory and it still ended the day with more money you realize this and you don't like it but you don't have any other option and if you decided not to have your labor stolen from you you would starve to death this scenario could be compared to a mugger placing a gun to your head and demanding your money your only other option is death for what about the fact that you use the employers private property and machines in order to make that product what about the fact that the employer had to risk capital in order to attain that private property let's look at how do we employ a tane to the means of production privately it would have been through either inheritance extraction of surplus value on a smaller scale to accumulate profits to buy the larger means of production or pulling himself up by his bootstraps and saving for it the first two still mean the employer has done less work than his workers yet received more the last would mean that he would have done working under another employer in which his own surplus value would have been extracted until he could save her his own means of production even if it is the last option which is the rarest scenario eventually the profit received by his workers would outweigh the labor he did to save up and attain that private property over time this is also the scenario of the most risk involved in terms of investment however it is absurd to claim that risk should be taken as a factor when risk is only created by the system of capitalism in the first place it is completely unnecessary now let's imagine the same situation under socialism you live in the same industrialized city but now you are not required to work your food and rent are already provided however not as much food and land as you want only the amount that you require to live you could get more food and other luxuries if you went to work and as well as that you find setting at home doing nothing all day boring so you decide to go to the local factory now instead of there being an employer the factory is run and maintained by the workers themselves however exactly they want to work is determined by themselves through democracy as a worker and contributor of labour you get a say in this as well every week or so the worker base of the factory assembles to discuss concerns ideas and establish how the factory functions these decisions must be respected by all of the workers there would be the workers themselves who collectively made them after a day of working you receive an amount of labour vouchers depending on how much labour you contribute it that day this depends not only on the length of time but also the intensity of the labor as different workers have different mental and physical abilities different workers receive a different amount of labour powers no one who did not contribute any labour receives any share from the proceeds of the factory's labor from the total proceeds of labour deductions are made instead of all going completely to labour vouchers for the workers themselves this is to cover the costs of two areas that being within the factory itself and then the costs for outside of society as well who have been the means of production deductions are made for the replacement of used materials or tools during the production as well as saving possible expansion of means of production in the future and for the cost of administrating the means of production and the society the Junction's are made for providing welfare and a basic income to all those in society including yourself these deductions would most likely be handled by a democratically controlled form of state apparatus the rest of the proceeds of labour are exchanged for labour vouchers and are allocated to where they are most useful with society you and your other because then receive the labor vouchers based on the individual labor you contributed you can then use these to exchange for any luxury not provided by your basic income you wish this way all of your labor directly or indirectly serves you as opposed to a portion of it being given to your employer for them to do as they wish with it and that's socialism it's as simple as that as a disclaimer the examples provided in this video mostly applied to the 19th and early 20th century style capitalism though of course production lines and factories are still used extensively especially in third world countries although there are now in the modern day many conditions and types of employment which the traditional example of surplus-value does not apply it is however so important to understand as it is inherent part of capitalism and even where it does not apply usually exploitation simply takes upper forms




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  1. Since making this video some things I would had said have changed, so this isn't 100% accurate, however is still fairly good for complete beginners. If you're looking to learn more on leftism, I've made a more up to date video detailing what Socialism is as a society itself, and I highly recommend watching it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vum0-y47cvw

  2. Before I begin my tirade, I would like to say I appreciate this video. you delivered your message in a clear and simple way, and I always appreciate that. so thank you.
    1:12 But your employer isn't selling your labor, YOU sold your labor. And if you found a better offer, you'd go and sell your labor there. What he employer is selling is the the product of a system that you are only a part of, the other parts being the other workers, the tools, the machinery, the system, the networks, the organization, the building, etc. 2:01 how so? inheritance means he had to go through a variety of special training, education, social, home, that the worker didn't, and that enabled him to be trusted with the money (otherwise he'd lose it), and building from smaller "exploitation" means he's so good at making these system works that he spent the "stolen" money back into the institution, which is what a socialist workplace would have to do as well. (This is all assuming the capitalist is also a manager, if he's just an investor, he's essentially gambling, and the whole thing is out of hands, placed on the person(s) providing all of the above things I listed) 2:32 How is risk a product of the capitalist system? do crops not fail under socialism? do accidents not happen? do factories not produce to much or to little? does demand not dry up? Supply? All the same risks apply to socialism as to capitalism, its just a question of who's assuming those risks. 2:46 provided by whom? and how? how do they know how much I require? 3:07 why should i have a say in it? what do i, as somebody coming in with no skills, know about how much the factory is producing? about what the area needs? What if they decide they don't need another worker? They'll condemn me to live in my tiny box with hopefully enough food and nothing to do? 3:48 Where do the deductions come from? from the person who worked the hardest? how do you assign value to different aspects of work? 4:28 How does this democratically controlled state apparatus know how much my labor is worth? How do i know how much the guy in another factory's labor's worth? 4:44 But my employer (under capitalism) would have had to balance his income with the amount of money needed to keep the factory producing any income. In the socialist system, the person filling that role (coordination, planning, executive functions) would probably still be getting paid more, as his labor is STILL necessary to make all other labor work to the best, so he's still getting more money to do what he will with it, except now there's no balancing it, its just what he can convince everybody he needs. Other questions include who designs the system to make it work? how do they implement changes? do they receive extra vouchers? why should they, as they're not doing any additional "work"?

  3. This is a pretty biased opinion on the subject. The workplace has changed, there is no economic depression and we have been out of the industrialist era for a long time. Capitalism works by the person earning more by working harder to gain currency to pay for food, taxes and luxuries. All countries on sociallism eventualy collapse into poverty.

  4. You didn't take human behavior into account.
    Ppl are lazy and get bored? So there would be no fortnite to play for hours on end?

  5. A mugger would steal all your money
    While an employer "steals" a small portion of your labour

    But it is not stealing, rather you are stealing from him if you got all your money,
    You are using his machines, and his facilities, his electricity and he takes all the risk.
    Even if the company loses alot of money, you still get paid.

  6. 0:00 Typical Industrial Life,
    Factory Work, Unskilled Labor, Assembly Line, Poor
    1:33 Means of Production. Entrepreneurial Risk.
    1:58 Labor and Wage. Profit.
    2:18 Risk is created by Capitalism (less safety nets)

    2:32 Under Socialism
    + Essentials provided (food, home, medical care)
    2:53 Worker’s democracy
    3:27 Time, Intensity of labor, taken into account for profits/proceeds/vouchers.
    3:40 Deductions for (1) Factory needs (2) Outside societal costs

    4:44 Disclaimer: 19th, 20th century capitalism

  7. What if all the workers said to the the boss, "Hey, we are gonna go work for this other rich guy cause he is offering us better salary". Then the first lazy fat rich guy will get pressured buy the beauty of capitalism called competition and have to adjust and offer a better working deal, including better work environments, better salary etc.
    Only Socialism is regulating this competition with force and threats

  8. It always amazes me the the communists never seem to want to start from scratch. They always want to seize "the means of production" AFTER it is built by a CAPITALIST! I've known many people live this dude. He CAN'T do SHIT yet he expects those who can to be slaves to the STATE. Hey dude, grow a set of balls, pick up a gun and just go to your neighbors and steal what you want rather then expect the state to do your stealing for you. You don't like working for wages start your own business rather then leeching off of others.

  9. if you work for another man in capitalist society, you will never save enough to get your own factory, because they will make sure you never do, so they can stay in power and exploit you.

  10. Funny how people think a socialist system is oppressive while they work for an authoritarian corporation

  11. I work over 60 hours a week as an industrial mechanic….. another person here works as a part time security guard……. we are not equal I would take his job in a heartbeat but it pays less…… you see how if everyone is equal I would have no drive to work hard and learn a skill….. look up equity

  12. I worked for a company for 32 years,was paid well,we also got a bonus every year, this video is bullshit.

  13. This underestimates capitalism's capacity to reform, as it has done in the last 100 years. People now are not just workers but customers of capitalism. And this has been achieved with the implementation of many socialist principles, trade unions, social security etc.

  14. Capitalist: Employer is reselling my labour for a higher price. volountary. Employer also took risk and has contacts.
    Socialist : Employer is stealing a part of my wage and selling it. involountary. Employer didn´t contribute any labour but gets more money than me.
    Comment which one is your favorite!

  15. Employer sells your labour to someone else for a higher price than what he bought it off of you.
    completely fine by me! But we do need free medcare , school , food and house.

  16. Exelent video. Explains the socialist work places excelently. I prefer capitalism, but for people to know what side they want to join they need to know what those factions want/do.

  17. Im just learning the differences between the two so i don't side with any of them, but i can say this video is super socialist bias

  18. yeah but the government will have a monoploy over everybody your government will essentially become your boss controlling your wages with however much they have its way worst than a capitalist work place where even if you are being paid poor wages you have choices because quitting from your job isnt a bad thing you need people to get on your side and protest find another competitor and take that business down with their lack of employees yes some of the things socialism says has some truth to is the employees hold up the business

  19. Socialism:

    Person who worked hard to make their own business: $200k per year

    A hobo who never gave a fuck about working: $200k per year.

    Why would you work or even try hard if money is just going to be handed to you by other rich people

  20. You’re volontarily selling your labour to your employer, and he sells it on the market for a higher price.

    But i could agree that big companies should let the workers decide a little bit more like democracy

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