#AskCenk: Why Socialism Doesn't Work & Turkish Protests

he's coming ambassador Jenny here with the questions go Kevin Silva wants to know in the world of Game of Thrones what name would you take Lord yougurt or King Jake easiest question in the history of Twitter store why would I want to be a lord if I could be king and Lord sounds kind of dubious you know saying King Jack of course I've also decided firmly on what my flag banner words would be definitely ball too strong an elbow from the sky right thanks Sylvain ping par why do you believe we went to the moon even of constant radiation to the Sun and other stars exists are you really that stupid yes next come on where you really think we didn't land on the moon you're awesome dog wrong again Bob we did land on the moon next there wants you to explain how capitalism works and explain how socialism does not Jesus how much time do we have okay look to me it's actually silly labels now all of our forms of government are a mix so for example there are some government services like the cops the military the firemen the post office etcetera and we have private uh sector as well so you've got uh of course UPS and FedEx that do a similar service but slightly different you've got Nike who makes sneakers so now if you're saying communism is where the government makes all of those things I totally and utterly disagree I think it's a bad form of government I often say that I'm totally in favor of capitalism by that I mean a mixed economy like the one we currently have but probably a little closer to Europe which in some circles would be called socialist so it's just a matter of splitting hairs as to what you call socialist and what you call uh capitalist but don't believe the extremes don't like the guys who are free-market libertarians that think the government should do nothing are insane the guy who's who think the government should do everything unfortunately equally insane the answer somewhere in the middle go mark walls requests a happy dance no go said right what do you think about the situations in taxi Istanbul alright now we made a lot of videos about that and you can check that out on our of course youtube.com slash tyt let me just say here look the most important thing is Turkey is a secular country now the United States of America was a first secular country ever where we said we are literally not a Christian nation and our founding fathers put it in the Constitution now Turkey was also a secular that even more secular in its founding in the nineteen twenties so it is by definition and by formation a secular country anyone who messes with that messes with the bull and you're seeing the bull run through the streets of Turkey now that's my sense of next kareem 1907 are you a fan of any turkish soccer team a lot of turkish questions today and by the way by the bull I don't mean me or my bannermen I mean generally Turks in general and yes uh I fell about yeah that's the team that I grew up liking this has been a Twitter store is coming

  1. I would like to suggest to anyone who's sincerely interested in a well-rounded and sophisticated understanding of Socialist thought to read the actual works of socialist theorists.

    Namely, I'd recommend: "What is Property?" and "The Philosophy of Misery" both by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon; "Socialism, Utopian and Scientific" by Friedrich Engels; “The Working Man's Programme” by Ferdinand Lassalle; "Self-Government in Industry" and "Guild Socialism Restated" both by G.D.H. Cole; and "Progress and Poverty" by Henry George. All of these books can be downloaded for free onto your Kindles or as PDF docs from the Internet Archive.

  2. USA is not first secular country ever it was "Dubrovacka republika"
    "Republic of Ragusa" but not full secular
    Also they abolished slavery like 400 yrs before you did
    Also it was the first country that suported your independence,
    and only country in world at that time that was alowed to use your ports
    One more interesting fact, when Britain colonized india they were suprised that they find vilage with church that was in possesion of Republic of Ragusa also at the time that small country had larger navy than Britain and France combined

  3. The Third Way is the fastest way to the Third World. If Cenk Uyghur wants "balance" when it comes to the economy, then why is he unwilling to strike a "balance" between civil liberty and safety?

  4. Wrong cenk, USA was never the 1st secular nation as its people never voted it to be. Some Politicians only said – not the people, or slaves, or native Indians – an the latter 2 never voted. ha-ha-ha.

  5. Fenerbahce? Come on, man! It's all about that sweet, sweet Besiktas action! Gotta rep those Black Eagles!

  6. When you interchange "socialism" with "communism" at random, it proves you know absolutely nothing.
    Socialism is where private property doesn't exist (as Cenk did say, government controls literally everything).
    Communism/Marxism is in essence anarchy. A stateless utopia where people are somehow supposed to intuitively know what their role is, who needs what, how much of what to produce and WHEN/WHERE to produce it, and to know every key factor that impacts everyone else with absolutely no over-sight or order.

    The hard truth is that there needs to be oversight, order, control, and delegation of hard and easy tasks to the relevant people. Under a capitalist system that occurs organically. Entrepreneurs assume responsibility for their own companies/wealth and oversee their workers and delegate roles to them. Entrepreneurs also fill the spaces in the market because that is where profit lies. They keep the economic engine running.

    It is a utopia fantasy to think such a ridiculous model (or lack there of) would ever hold a candle to the productive capacity unleashed by the capitalist system.

    Whether or not SOCIALISM works is an entirely different conversation, but if you want the USA to look more like Europe then you're gonna have a bad time.
    How about just move to the EU if they have it so great?

  7. Cenk you don't understand what communism is, we don't think the government should do and control everything that's 100% paradoxical to the ideology, Stalinism is not real Marxism and I would explain Marxism but it would take me too long and you probably won't see this

  8. European Socialism is not "Socialism." It is a system of Keynesian capitalist welfare states wherein most of the revenue to fund their huge social services come from European monopolization of Third world markets. It's obvious that the European system isn't working. Look at Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal. The liberal veneer over the exploitative system that is Capitalism will not last forever. By June, the European far left will have more power in European Parliament than the liberals will. People are waking up. Having a system of sprawling social services is nice but the revenue for such systems is based off of heavy taxation, exploitation of people in other countries, and most importantly Capitalism. Capitalism booms and busts all the time, and as it's effects are taking more and more of a toll on the world through environmental destruction, war, and poverty, the system is becoming more and more unstable. Btw Cenk, what you described is not Communism, what you described is the Socialist stage of Leninism.

  9. Why would you want a system closer to Europe. It's a dying continent. Since the industrial revolution, Europe has given birth Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, WWI, WWII, USSR, and now a bullshit super-bureaucracy call the EU. There's no more great thinkers in Europe. The whole continent is just a massive social super-state characterized by high unemployment (specially among the youth), slow economic growth. Their social system is too costly and unsustainable. Already, many countries like France are showing signs of poor or failed services. And now Europeans are losing their freedoms too. Their asshole leaders seem to have one single obsession, which is to destroy the idea of the nation-state. Sorry, Europe is writing itself out of history. Other than good soccer, there's not much positive going for this continent. I would never advocate any form of imitation of Europe.

  10. Libertarian such as me, never said that Government should do nothing. We believe in the social contract. We just said that government should only do the things that only it is best capable of doing. No one wants a private police force or military. Government should also invest in building public infrastructure because something like a national highway system would be too expensive for private corporation to build and there would be no way to make a profit of it, because of the freeloading effect. Thus, corporation would have no intensive to build it. However, a country needs great infrastructure to boost its economy. Certain public research program like space traveling or the inventing the internet should be undertaken by the government. Those projects create new technological innovations that improve society and create new industry. Other than that I'm oppose to government manipulating the market by creating laws. We also oppose to social program like welfare, minimum wages, or affirmative action. They're all well-meaning but they never help those intended and the unintended consequences are devastating for everyone.  

  11. You actually want a system closer to European socialism. Good luck in paying close to 50% of your tax. Europe has the lowest growth rate of any economic bloc in the World, heavy tax, high unemployment, and declining services,

  12. Universal health care and education and jobless benefits are NOT socialism. Conservatives in Europe do not consider themselves socialists or social democrats.

  13. I'm not failing to understand those things. As I've said before several times, I KNOW that what the USSR practiced wasn't "true" communism as envisioned by Marx.

    The thing YOU keep failing to understand is that despite what "true" communism might be, the simple fact is, people are typically going to associate communism with the system practiced in the USSR. You might not like that fact, but it's true. Cenk realizes this, so he responded according to the public's understanding of the term.

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