Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez | SXSW 2019


So this is quite the crowd yeah nothing new for you, I presume that All kinds of Records that there was a huge queue going down the stairs and around the building. Is that true? Have you guys been waiting a line for a while? Well, I hope it’s worth it I know but I’m really excited to be here and to be able to have this conversation with you on one of my favorite topics But first I just want to introduce you although you’re someone who needs no introduction the youngest congresswoman in the house From the great state of New York the 14th district which encompasses parts of Bronx and queens any local command And my name is Brianna cray, I’m here from the intercept which All of you might know but is a non-profit independent news organization that was founded about five years ago By Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald’s and today we focus on publishing Independent news about corruption and the environment criminal justice surveillance war technology all the interesting things And I want to tell you up top that if you want to tweet about this event and follow along you should use the hashtag AOC intercept so The thing that makes you really stand out I think is the extent to which you’ve gotten so many people engaged about a subject which frankly can be a little bit dry and that is politics and Particularly the extent to which you’ve engaged a lot of younger people in the political process. I mean your your Instagram feeds get an incredible amount of views you Set records on C-span for the amount of times that people have watched these clips It might not be a very high bar to be but you beat it So I want to ask you first and foremost, you know, why do you think it is that you’ve engaged people in this way? well, I think part of what happened last year was a little bit of a cracking system and Even before the primary and everything else that happened when when I was Part of the team and making the campaign video ahead of the win it opened with this line that said women like me aren’t supposed to run for office and it’s because young people with with the norms and the systems and an electoral system that’s dominated by special interests and dark money and Rules of seniority and all of these things young people aren’t supposed to run Working-class people aren’t supposed to run people that have not been groomed for a very long time aren’t supposed to run let alone win and when we did yesterday, I mean yesterday it feels like When when we did last year? I think it kind of created this shock in the system where suddenly a lot of other people said, wait a second Maybe I can do this too. And I think that is what is behind the surge. It’s not like this top-down Organizing apparatus, but it’s really this movement starting to translate into More of our electoral politics than then we probably anticipated You know What’s funny is that this might be end up being the longest conversation? That we’ve had despite the fact that I feel like we’ve been kind of circling each other for a while I actually started at the intercept I think two days after it published its first article on you. Oh and the intercept is one of the first publications to really start covering your race because if it’s hard to remember that now That you are you know such a trailblazer and such a popular political figure but in the in the spring of 2018 this all seemed like a bit of a long shot you were going up against one of the most powerful representatives in the state It’s one have a lot of influence and seniority and It was it’s been quite the ride to be able to kind of Start my career and start covering your beat the AOC beat if you will And be there for your amazing Primary victory and to see that look on your face. Yeah. It was a genuine registration. I’m surprised yeah So now that your your you know a few months into your actual tenure Is there anything in particular that you think you’ve learned that you didn’t expect? Oh, man What I’ve learned, I mean there’s so much that you’re learning every single day you know and and every moment kind of represents a certain transition of sorts, so there was this crazy period Of course, there was everything that we were doing before the primary and what we were learning up to that day Then there was this insane period between the primary election in the general election And then the general election and swearing-in and now is kind of about two months into our first term and so there’s each one of those things carries a huge lesson, but I think in the last two months, it’s been really fascinating to see Exactly, you know we have this idea that DC is dominated by dark money and that like lobbyists are hiding in people’s, you know closets or whatever like Boop like Vote for oil I’m like whatever it is But it doesn’t you know, it doesn’t work like that. And so it’s been very Fascinating to see how subtle these very powerful Influences make their way and and that is what makes them powerful is that there’s you know Sometimes it it is very transactional and it’s like here’s a check, you know We have a relationship now But a lot of times it’s much more subtle than that and then the language and all of this stuff all of these little pieces Add up to the reality that people sense and feel which is that the culture that is governing Washington DC is extremely separated from the reality of what everyday people are experiencing and feeling Does that awareness of how? Many cell influences. There are in the political process Undemocratic influences. They’re on the political process I don’t want to this isn’t a conversation about 2020, but I’m curious how much that influences your Decision-making and how much you think voters should attend to that when they select candidates and you know how you can Start to tell or distinguish between candidates who may or may not have made efforts to distance themselves from those influences I think it’s really important and It you know there there are some aspects to it that we should look for in terms of litmus test, you know Does it can’t has a candidate rejected corporate PAC money for example, but I think it also goes much deeper than that And and you really need to look at the overall coherence and consistency of a person’s policy positions and when you see that they’re consistently voting or they’re consistently acting or Defending certain interests you do have to ask yourself why and sometimes that does go a little bit deeper than just have they taken money from a corporate PAC but But it has to do with with a lot more influences as well And so, you know, I think that that’s something that’s really important to consider But again, I think it’s it’s really looking at the overall platform and and picture that any one candidate or elected official presents, you know What is the story that they tell I think is extremely important to ask and to look for of people So I think this is a good point to start to pivot into the main subject of remarks here today Which is to talk about this race class divider this alleged raised class divide that percolated up, I think in the aftermath of 2016 when Donald Trump’s victory after a campaign that was so explicitly Racist I’ll say not not racialized which is the first thing you all kind of been prized today right flavored like all these language Tinged like I think he’s but he’s one of the few that you can kind of say The term dog whistling is it’s it’s too subtle. Yeah It gives them too much credit. Right? Right. So, you know following his win there were all of these Gnostics about what actually caused it and the fact that he was so expressed where other people have been Subtle made one camp kind of form that say it was predominantly Primarily and sometimes even exclusively about racism and another camp emerged that said well He was also speaking to a lot of populist things. He really talked about trade a lot and activated people’s resentment around the TPP and for some reason these has been kind of painted as mutually exclusive Rationale, what do you make about? well, I think that the effort to divide race and class has always been the tool of The powerful to prevent everyday working people from taking control of the government that is supposed to work for them and So you see this? And So I think you actually see the beginnings of this, you know 2016 I think was a really stark example of this But you actually see some of the roots of this and you see a lot of the roots of the issues that we have right now Take really start to take hold in the late 70s and during the 80s and one perfect example I think a perfect example of how special interests and the powerful have pitted White working-class Americans against brown and black working-class Americans in order to just screw over all working-class Americans Is Is Reaganism in the 80s when he started talking about welfare queens So you think about this image welfare queens and what he was really trying to talk about was this who’s painting this photo? he’s painting this like really resentful vision of essentially black women who were doing nothing that were sucks on our country, right and it’s this whole tragedy of the commons type of Thinking thinking where it’s like because these one this one specific group of people that you are already kind of Subconsciously primed to resent you give them a different reason That’s not explicit racism, but still read it in a racist caricature It gives people a logical Realisable reason to say oh ya know toss out the whole social safety net yeah, and then as a result, we are all devastated and what we’re dealing with in 29 2016 I think was like the reckoning of that again, which is Yep, you wages have stayed flat for 30 years Our nation is being more productive and more wealthy as a whole than ever before but that wealth is being enjoyed By a very small amount of people and the reason for it is not systemic inequality or runaway hyper Capitalism or the fact that we’ve taken away all the guardrails of a responsible Society. The reason is Mexicans you know and That’s the reason And This This is a it is an old trope, but we’re getting conned and we can start fighting over each other and this that and the other and the wall and whatever, but this is why I say that it’s we need to be really zeroing in on the malpractice of governance and how You know Special interests have captured the only tool that we have to govern ourselves fairly and not at a profit So how then do we redirect let me let me ask this first. I think that your point about the fact that It seems as though Republicans generally But Trump has been able to to fill a void right to kind of speak to these, you know economic means So-called economic anxiety, whatever you want to call it precarity the stagnation of wages, etc That have been felt across the board. Of course, not just and among the white working-class And that he’s able to speak to those interests almost in a vacuum Like nobody else is speaking to them and I think that’s something that that’s so interesting Is that you have risen you you ran a campaign and we have seen many popular politicians now running campaigns But highlight issues which are characterized as fringe and on the left But which have a plurality of support among not even just Democratic voters, but Republican voters as well So why do you think it’s taken so long to get candidates who are pushing issues like Medicare for all a green new deal? $15 minimum wage to the foreground I think it’s because You know, I So I’ll I’ll kind of go back with a story because even though people, you know They try to characterize my district as far left and oh my god every socialist in America lives in like East Bronx and queens or whatever like It’s but there are a lot of Trump voting pockets of my district and I talked to these folks and I’ll never forget, you know And it’s there are parts of my district that look like the middle of the country believe it or not. And And I remember on the remember. I’ll never forget this one older woman who came to me and said, you know, I always voted Democrat because growing up my dad told me that Democrats were the people that fight for the working man and We stopped and The Working man and woman and people is the majority of this country And so what we I think we saw was now both parties frankly. I abdicated their responsibility And it was just no one was fighting for working people who were struggling and so as a result it almost created this opportunity and You can take all of this anger and direct it To a negative and destructive end that allows a small group of people to benefit a great amount Or you have to take a really bold stances to bring it the other way and direct it to the possibility of what we can accomplish together and I think The thing that is really hard for for people to sometimes see is that when we are on this path of a slow erosion and a slow slow slow just like Move away from what we’ve always been we’ll be a hundred miles You’ll you know, you’ll realize you won’t even realize that you’ve drifted a hundred miles So when someone’s talking about our core, it’s like oh, this is radical But this isn’t radical. This is what we’ve always been it’s just that now we we’ve strayed so far away from what has really made us powerful And just and good and equitable unproductive. And so I think all of these things sound radical compared to where we are, but where we are is not a good thing and this idea of like 10% better from Garbage it Shouldn’t be what we settle for. It’s like this like it feels like Moderate is not a stance. It’s just an attitude toward life of like Don’t hold it back tell me how you feel about incrementalism But here’s the thing that upsets me is that We’ve become so cynical that that we view or we view cynicism as an intellectually superior attitude and we view ambition as youthful naiveté When we think about the greatest things we have ever accomplished as a society have been ambitious acts of vision and The math is like worship now for what like for what I Like to joke that incremental ISM has ruined my dating life Because I have been on several dates now where people have argued with me. Not any ideological measure per se but the the pure merits of Incrementalism and when I find myself doing in response is often a booking some of the themes that I think make Your approach so powerful which is to foreground the moral question Mm-hm and to ask you know if we say that X Y & Z is gonna take so many years if climate change is a great example because we’ve not been Told we don’t have but 12 years, right? Who who actually? Is hurt by by kicking the can down the road that’s right, because there was a lot of conversation in 2016 about how I’m kind of you know irresponsible or naive was to Pursue some of these big-ticket items and not a lot of conversation about the privilege that it takes to say Well, we’ll deal with this in the next generation, you know So I I do want to connect this back a little bit more to the issues Involving race because while you think that there is a great deal of popularity These programs are pull after polls show overwhelmingly popular There is this emergent narrative that says these kind of New Deal style Universal programs are not For Diverse communities and that there’s a lot of skepticism that I think is understandable among certain, you know Non-white communities that says well these programs were floated before and they did a lot to do Fix a lot of people have a lot of people in America, but they systemically cut out Us yeah, you know We weren’t able to take advantage of them in the same way and they had the effect of widening the wealth gap and in other Kinds of gaps. So how do we Connect the utility of these kind of New Deal programs to communities that feel like they have been insufficiently served by them in the past, you know, and That’s an excellent question because it’s it was one of the founding questions with which we started approaching at the draft of the green New Deal resolution because One of the things about history is that it is often revisionist, you know, Martin Luther King is cast as this angelic person that never made anyone mad and just asked for civil rights and got it and and Unions were always just seen as like this great powerful thing that nobody died For a 40-hour work week and a weekend And it’s a similar thing, you know the other way with the New Deal is that we act as though the New Deal wasn’t racist and the New Deal was an extremely economically racist policy that drew literal red lines around black and brown communities and And basically it invested in White America and what it did was that it allowed? white Americans to have access to home loans that black and brown Americans did not have access to Giving them the largest form of intergenerational wealth, which is real estate And so this is really it really accelerated many parts of an already horrific racial wealth gap that continues to persist today So how do we turn this around and what we did with the green new deal is? this is why the intersectional frontline community aspect of the green New Deal is so important because it allows indigenous communities to lead black and brown communities to have a certain self-determination that has not existed in public policy For these communities before and so one of the ways that we do that is we say we fix the pipes in Flint first we clean the air in the Bronx first we Rebuild the the electrical grids in Puerto Rico, and we fully funds and and We fully fund the pensions of coal miners in West Virginia at the same time because and the reason that we do these things is because the truth of the matter is that economically civically and beyond our destinies and our prosperity and our well-being is tied its inextricably linked and when we pursue public policy in a way that Unlinks us from each other it is not sustainable It’s not sustainable eventually it catches up to you and it catches up to you in racial resentment That and that racial resentment is a political tool to dismantle the economic Advocacy that we need to have for ourselves so I think your point about how Important intersectionality isn’t in the design of these New Deal programs is really well made But I think there’s this interesting debate that’s happening. Where Instead of arguing that programs like the New Deal these so-called Universal programs Should be designed to avoid the mistakes of the past so that they should be more intersectional There is a rising skepticism of them on the whole And a feeling that instead of those programs Marginalized communities to be better served by programs that are racially specific like racially targeted programs that would put resolving racial weight great race gaps rather first and I think that raises a very really obvious political conundrum, even if kind of ethical concerns are I One would have empathy for them. Right? So the political conundrum is if we live in a country, that’s still 70 percent white which is a number I think shocks a lot of people but if you include White Hispanics it actually is that big? Who often vote? similarly to non-hispanic whites You know, what as a political cost. Let’s say of saying we’re going to bow your hat and with a program like Reparations, how much do you think those considerations should be made? well You know, it’s a good question, I think that one of the things that we’ve seen from early polling actually is that I think that we should Distance ourselves and start getting away from this idea that That We should only care about our selves Because when we really do start to assert and believe and understand and see how our how our destinies are tied it doesn’t it we kind of get away from this idea that only You know people of color care about other people of color and only white people care about other white people and so on There are a lot of systems that we have to dismantle but also it does get into this Interesting area of where we are as a country about identity because Like what does it mean to be black? Who is you know who is black and who is and especially as our country becomes more biracial and multi? Multiracial same thing with being Latino same thing it brings up all these questions of like passing and you know, things like that But but I do think it is important that we have to have substantive conversations about race beyond beyond like what is racist and what is not and if someone says something Racist does that make them racist like we we need to get away from talking Well, not that we have to get away from talking about racism. It’s important that we talk about racism but Because we talk about racism so much. We actually aren’t talking about race itself and We aren’t educating ourselves about our own history To come to the conclusions that I think we need to come to. Hmm. I One of the frustrations Those of you who are familiar with my Twitter feed know that I’m very online and one of the recurring frustrations that I have Is the way in which the the idea of a race class divide erases the extent to which? The biggest concerns from my in my view. Anyway, when we talk about racism the negative effects of racism what we’re really talking about are one the kind of interpersonal Slight and the feeling of marginalization and those kind of psychic harms, but most more significantly more often We’re talking about the effects which are awesome economic and how how kind of absurd it feels to be to say that a conversation about closing the the wealth gap the racial wealth gap is somehow a conversation that falls into one category either race or class or that if we’re talking about housing integration that somehow that isn’t also a class issue and you know It feels like not a lot of people are doing a particularly good job of connecting the extent to which kind of class equality efforts are in fact inextricably entwined with racial equality effort No matter what like as a matter, of course definitionally, you know What kind of do you have any any sense of what kind of messaging is effective there? I actually think that it it’s It goes beyond messaging and it’s really just about education so like a lot of people don’t know this story about the New Deal a lot of people don’t know what redlining is and because of that it’s just like I don’t know why there is a racial wealth gap like and because when people are not educated about the tools and the systems that created Racial wealth gap disparities or other wealth gap disparities. It’s just like this is the reality I don’t know and you create this gaping maw in which someone can tell a racist story that That kind of tells people why a certain community is poor They’re poor because they’re lazy they’re poor because they’re uneducated they’re poor because this but no one’s saying they’re poor because they’re redlining and everyone else inherited a house except for You know people of color yeah, and so I’ve got no house. Yeah. Yeah, and so So I think a lot of it requires is part of our personal responsibility to educate ourselves To get past the revisionist history that we’re taught in the fourth grade and so that’s you know, I think that’s an important part but also the messaging is important as well and that it doesn’t Feel good to live in an unequal society. It doesn’t feel good Like I walked through New York City Which has the highest rate of people who are homeless today that in any other time since the Great Depression and at the same time, there are Penthouses galore fifty percent of which are vacant because they’re people’s like second or third or fourth home and it doesn’t feel good doesn’t feel good walking down New York City and and You know and and in walking and seeing so many veterans who are homeless so many Elderly who are homeless and and so on people with mental illnesses that are homeless Like it doesn’t feel good to live in a society like that. And so Part of it. I think does go back to the to the moral question It’s like and that’s where you know, you’re also able to combat that incrementalism because it’s like we’re talking for example with ice I’ve stated very very clearly I don’t believe that an agency that’s systematically and repeatedly violates human right rights can be reformed. I think it must be abolished I Got I got a lot of heat recently in the party because I was really furious when When this Republican amendment was able to kind of slip through on a gun safety bill That gave more power to ice it allowed It allowed gun vendors to to report information about undocumented people to ice and I was furious about it and I got a lot of heat for being furious about it because you know, whatever reason and so but the the thing is the reason that I was so upset is because we have an agency, that is Separating children from their parents and putting them in cages and CNN was reporting a year ago a Year ago CNN had reports of ice agents pinning down children and forcibly injecting them with Antipsychotic drugs and the thing that makes me furious is this app it is this idea of like let’s just cage a few less Let’s just inject a few less let’s just You know it’s too politically complicated and for me what is just so upsetting and heartbreaking about this moment is like Since when did it become the moderate position in America to continue caging children? And that’s why I like we’re not talking about we’re not tough We’re not talking about the difference between a seven and a ten percent tax rate. We’re not talking about percentage points We’re talking about human rights. We’re talking about children We’re talking about what kind of nation we want to be and this idea that its electoral II complicated because we have allowed racial resentment to become legitimized as a Political tool is a very difficult thing to grapple with so so you mentioned One of the things I said about is is that you know when it’s if something is structurally Irredeemable then we shouldn’t be having conversations about redeeming it, you know majorities of Americans I think for the first time a majority of American more Americans feel favorably about socialism than capitalism and Increasingly there. Are these kind of systemic critiques of Of capitalism. Do you feel similarly that that our system of government is? Irredeemable, I mean you’ve said you’ve said in the past, you know, you don’t think it’s Ethical to have a country with billionaires where there were so many people who are you know? struggling to get basic their basic health care needs met you know at what point does that translate into a broader systemic critique of a country and a Critique of what kind of leaders we should be electing going forward. I don’t think that our government is irredeemable If I did I wouldn’t have run for office, but but capitalism in particular right because it could be different. So I think The tough part about this about like is capitalism redeemable, etc. Is that It’s hard to have these conversations I think as a society because we all have different ideas Of what just in the public imagination? There’s a there are different ideas of What? Does capitalism mean what does socialism mean etc, but for me? when I think about What those definitions are? Capitalism isn’t to me is it’s an ideology of capital It puts capital. The most important thing is the concentration of Capital and it means that we seek and prioritize profit and the accumulation of money Above all else and we seek it at any human and environmental cost That is what that means and to me that Ideology is not sustainable and cannot be redeemed But when we talk about ideas, for example, like democratic socialism It means putting democracy and society first instead of capital first It doesn’t mean that you put other things last It doesn’t mean that that the actual concept of capital as a society is should be abolished or or anything like that but it’s it’s a question of our priorities and I right now I think what we are reckoning with are the consequences of putting profit above everything else in society because what we’re what it means is People getting paid less than what it takes to live. What it means is People that need insulin die because they can’t afford it even though us as a society Can afford it and because and also because insulin was originally made free because the idea of of having to pay to live seemed crazy even to the people who discovered it and So for me, it’s a question of priorities. And right now I don’t think our priorities are sustainable But there’s also again in the public imagination a lot of fear-mongering About what democratic socialism means that it’s like you’re you know That government’s gonna like take over the private sector and in fact in my opinion those those two things need to need to be separate and what we’re actually experiencing right now is the opposite we are experiencing is You know just as there’s all this fear-mongering that government is going to take over Every corporation and government is going to take over every business or every form of production We should be scared right now because corporations have taken of our government In my opinion We should be wary of any entity in which both of those things are combined whether it’s through one way or the other And that’s why the emphasis in democratic socialism is on democracy and it’s not about you know it it’s it’s just as much a transformation about bringing democracy to the workplace So that we have a say and that we don’t check all of our rights at the door every time we cross the threshold Into our workplace because at the end of the day as workers And as people a society were the ones creating wealth not a corporate CEO It’s not a CEO. That’s make that’s actually creating four billion dollars a year. It is the millions of workers in this country that’s creating billions of dollars of economic productivity a year and our system should reflect that I think as controversial as a debated rather as the Definition of democratic socialism I think is probably also the definition of identity politics and in this last few minutes I really do want to get to this because you Did an interview with Glenn Greenwald for the intercept last summer in which you gave perhaps the most eloquent description of identity politics that I’ve ever heard as someone who is a hundred percent on the idea of a politics So I want to if we can play a short part of that clip At the end of the day I’m a candidate that doesn’t take corporate money that champions medicare-for-all a federal jobs guarantee the abolishment of ice and a green new deal but I approach those issues with the lenses of the community that I live in and that is not as easy to say as identity politics, but I think it’s it’s something that our constituents understand on a very deep level So so what I love about that that definition and there was a lot before but I would rather you talk about here at live Then go back to your old Is that you I think United to two kind of different definitions that I’ve been percolating that I think cause a lot of the debate There is a critique of identity politics from a right, right, which says identity doesn’t matter It’s all about kind of rugged individualism And there’s to say that there are Experiences that people have because of what they look like how they identify how the world interacts with them is Silly or wrong despite the fact that that isn’t cord with most people’s lived experiences, right? You know that when you walk through the world wearing a you know a Space helmet on that people are gonna react to you like you’re wearing a space helmet and the same comes from other kinds of you Know I more substantive identities There’s also this critique of weaponized I didn t though which is I think the critique that more often comes on the Left which says You know the facts of somebody’s identity might be a proxy for their beliefs or their politics but is not determinative and That when particularly when we’re looking at politicians and kind of picking our leadership That it’s important to keep both of those things in mind to say okay representation has value the lens has value but the lens is a lens as opposed to Kind of I don’t know like an eye patch or a blight or something that completely cuts off vision. I mean, how do you negotiate the balance between I think a genuine desire for representation and you know a desire also to have substantive politics that don’t always map on to politicians who Possess marginalized identities. Yeah, you know and I feel like my perspective on this was really shaped by where I came from in the Bronx because There you know it took So much effort in my community to get people to even vote because they have been burned so many times and they’ve been burned by politicians that look like them and So in the Bronx, there’s just this idea. There’s really this idea that it’s just like it doesn’t really doesn’t matter and there’s all of the cynicism that Resulted from electing people. You know that Ethnically matched the community, but once they got into power advanced the same agenda that was marginalizing the community to begin with and so there was a lot of cynicism about that and the thing that creates hope about the situation is the joining of the two things is that you can have someone from the community that Understands the experience actually Advocate for the policies and the positions that can change our future so They’re not, you know separable things. I don’t think that If I truly do not believe that if I ran on a platform That was more moderate I would I would not have won my election I wouldn’t have and And Because it has to be not just a superficial alternative or something. That looks different It has to be something that actually is different and it has to be different on many levels So so it yes, it’s different in my identity and my identity and my experiences with my community inform and add You know a different perspective to The positions that I hold and to the policy that I hold because it goes the other way because you can’t have just a progressive position like Medicare for all without an understanding of race because Then you do get back to that position that you were talking about earlier where communities say. Oh this isn’t for me This is for somebody else people aren’t thinking about me when you’re drafting this plan and because you aren’t thinking about me then when it gets implemented, we’re gonna get left behind again, and it’s you know, It’s gonna be a benefit for somebody else and so to be able to articulate both of these things Both of these arguments that wants to be able to talk about how criminal justice reform Rather like the war on drugs was an economic agenda it It it educates people and that’s really what we need We we really just need to be educating ourselves right now about how we’ve gotten to this place Well, I would love to keep asking you a lot more questions, but I think I’ve been told to reserve 15 minutes for the audience so Does anybody have a question? Yes down in front I So the question is for anybody who didn’t hear how do you talk to people with the kind of different beliefs about racism and demonism and broader political beliefs so the way I have conversations with people of opposing beliefs is I don’t try to convince them of anything So that’s the first thing stop trying to win people over Stop trying to enter a conversation thinking that you’re gonna like aah-ha them into changing their mind and So I think that you know, we’ve kind of lost the art of conversation So when I enter a conversation with someone I actually try to learn more about Where they’re coming from like I Try I actually use it as an experience To like let’s say I’m talking to someone who’s saying something really racist and they don’t even realize that they’re saying something really racist. I Asked some questions because I’m interested. I’m fascinated by that How does that work, you know? but really and so I don’t do it in a way that’s like mocking but I ask questions to kind of dig like You know when someone says oh this isn’t racist why But you have to we have to learn to like really disarm ourselves in these conversations. First of all because we had proach them with so much hostility and like they get mad and we get mad and all of these things and and we so part of it is like emotional work and and The second part of it is intention. Like what are you trying to get out of this conversation? And if you’re just trying to argue with someone, it’s it’s gonna it’s not gonna work You know, you believe what you believe they believe what they believe So I think the thing that we have to do is try to have a good faith interaction of trying to learn more about where the other person comes from because often what I find, is that when I do win people over It’s almost never in the conversation itself that I’ve won someone over is that I have a conversation with someone I asked them some critical questions and I pretty like I pretty Calmly explained to them. Well, this is where I’m coming from and this is why I believe what I believe why do you believe what you believe and You kind of like leave the conversation but very often that person will sit on what you said and they will sit on the fact that you respected them and gave them space and Then very often I’ve had interactions like that and I’ll run into that person again a week later a month later Etc, and they said you know what? you said something that I really thought about and I changed my mind, but Conversate no one ever changes their mind in the actual acute Situation of a conversation it’s like they ask it’s like afterwards when it kind of sits with them but if you rush in, you know fully-armored up Attacking them and making them feel Defensive they will never listen to anything that you have to say. So it’s really about learning How how we can have a conversation again? And also there’s a really important conversation about good faith and bad faith Conversations and when I sense that someone is engaging in me and bad faith. I just don’t engage the conversation at all It’s not worth my time or my energy If someone’s trying to put you down or belittle you or approach a conversation as though they are more intelligent than you Because like oh, no, there’s no way that someone can disagree with me and still be smart. You know, there’s this like You know, there’s a very condescending tone that that we have in a lot of our conversations And and I think it’s important to really approach those kinds of disagreements with a lot of compassion because when they see they you know people really Look at not just the logic of your argument But how you make them feel as much as people hate to say that and admit it. It’s true Yeah, but I think that’s good advice and really hard advice because I think there’s a lot of talk about kind of emotional labor. Yeah yeah, yeah the idea of having to put out emotional labor is controversial right because nobody should have to but I think the reality is That if you don’t approach these conversations in a certain kind of way you don’t get the results that you’d like and I and I do find I found myself in those conversations a lot when I’m traveling around doing doing reporting trips around the country and Was once in a car with a bunch of other not white reporters where the uber drivers started saying some things that were like a little less than kosher and everyone jumped in and kind of I think in my defense is what it was about and I was like We’ve got 44 minutes till we get to Des Moines and I need this not to escalate And what ended up happening was that giving the driver a little bit more space? He basically talked himself out of his own racism using the ref’ you know, I needed to give him enough rope That’s right. You know, that’s right. I was just you know Austin’s a very special place for me because this is one of the first places where actually organized young people and I have this mentor and one of the best piece of pieces of advice that he gave me is Always give someone the Golden Gate of retreat which is give someone enough rope Give someone enough compassion enough opportunity in a conversation for them to look good changing their mind yeah, and it’s a really important thing to be able to do because if you’re just like, oh you said this thing like you’re racist and and When now you’re forcing that person to say no, I’m not like etc. There’s no golden gate of retreat. There you only Retreat there is to just barrel right through the opposing opinion. Yeah, I’m sorry I missed the line over there at the mic cuz it’s brand new. Yeah I count the days that Donald Trump will not be my president, which will hopefully be tomorrow, but I think it’s not all right, I Think it’s not gonna be until 2020. My problem is I look at everyone and I have a hard time Choosing someone I believe in versus just choosing someone I will that will win and at what point will we have a candidate we all believe in versus? Just getting ahead and getting that win. So he’s not president that’s an excellent question a lot of you know, I think that the I think the person we believe in is the person who will win and so I think that Even if who we believe in is different, I think that in this first initial stage, we have a responsibility To find and really fight for who we believe in because What people my opinion and I think we’ve seen what people think will win is wrong Almost always people what people think though they’ll say Oh I believe X Y Z but I think the thing that will win is something other than what I believe and so everyone starts like Triangulating what they think will win Away, from what they actually believe and compromising all of the things that make them passionate about Participating in our political system until we have this weird Compromise like this weird amalgamation which is like how we’ve gotten a lot of the politicians that we’ve gotten and a lot of our the complaints about Politicians that we’ve gone today how everyone talks like a robot that everything is pre-scripted That they’re either like super out of touch like this is how we got this we take responsibility because we voted for these people Like they didn’t come out of nowhere We voted for these people that we don’t like So if you’re complaining about the system It’s because we’re not fighting hard enough for what we actually believe in because we we we do idolize like cynicism as an intellectually superior position and we’re like, oh, you know It’s small of me or it’s you know, the the child in me that believes we can have health care as a human, right? Yeah, and I don’t think we should believe belittle our beliefs anymore. Like we are capable of so much as a country and We are capable of so much than what we’re doing right now Like we are capable of everything in the world We are capable of saving the planet of guaranteeing health care as a right of educating our children through college We are we are capable of establishing all work as dignified of Respecting people’s cultures of having an economy that not only welcomes immigrants but needs immigrants because we are being so productive We are We’re capable of that And like don’t get duped by this person That’s like oh I you know blah blah blah technic the technocratic No We’re capable of them and the position should be not Let’s not do it because we figured out all we haven’t figured out all the details yet How about the goal is let’s figure out all the details Because we’ve decided we’re going to the moon we’re gonna get there before the end of the decade and then we’re gonna do it You know Like When Kennedy said we’re gonna go to the moon by the end of 10 years People thought that he was crazy. He didn’t have a plan So many of the technologies that required us to get there weren’t even invented yet But it was taken seriously enough as a mission Like we need to think of platform positions as well as our mission and it should be our mission right now to make sure that all people Have health care it should be our mission right now our mission should Be to make sure that all jobs are paid a dignified living wage and then it’s you know And it should like our mission should be to save our freaking planet And this idea Visit the New York Times said and I quote. They said in a headline the green New Deal is Technologically possible but is it? politically possible and so that to me is the biggest you know condemnation of where we’re at because there is an admission an actual admission that we can do it and Just the idea That our biggest obstacle is political will should be the most embarrassing thing for us right now First of all saw you at Foley Square on women’s marched. It was really awesome. My name is Yael I’m a I am a first generation immigrant I wasn’t even gonna say that but cool as a technical as a tech entrepreneur as well. I do think everyday about automation and The millions of jobs that are going to be replaced by machines in the coming decades and how will we as a society? Be able to ensure that everyone can still earn a living or even find a purpose in an economy That will not be able to support as many jobs It’s it’s a it’s a great question. And and I think we talk about automation It’s not just automating people out of work But it’s automating every system that we have right now and what it also means is automating injustice. So when we talk about the trend of economic inequality It’s only going to accelerate with the advancement of technology if we don’t fix our underlying systems, so if we don’t fix our actual systems and how we handle the production of wealth, you know, we should be Everybody should be feeling the fact that we are Most prosperous point than we’ve ever been everybody in the country should be feeling the extent of our national prosperity but the majority of us aren’t and And so when we talk about the you know job automation One of the things that’s difficult is, you know, people should not necessary We should not be haunted by the specter of being automated out of work, right? We should have we should not feel nervous about You know the Tollbooth collector not having to collect tolls anymore we should be excited by that but the reason we’re not excited by head is because we live in a society where if you don’t have a job you are left to die and that is at its core or problem and So there are a lot of different solutions or a lot of different proposed Ideas about how we go about that. You know, Bill Gates has talked about taxing robots at ninety percent and What that means what he’s really talking about is taxing corporations at ninety percent But it’s easier to say tax a robot And so so, I think that What we do is when we actually decouple ourselves from this idea You know, we should get to a point and we should structure our systems whether it’s a tax rate whether it’s distributing wealth that is created by automation If we talk if we if we approach Solutions to our system and start entertaining ideas like that Then we should be excited about automation because what it what it could potentially mean is more time educating ourselves more time creating art more time investing and Investigating in the sciences more time focused on invention more time going to space more time Enjoying the world that we live in because not all creativity needs to be bonded by wage and And I think that actually like one of the reasons that this ideology or Questions of whether you want to call it democratic socialism or techno futurism or like whatever it is It is because our Technological advancement as a society has outpaced our system for handling finite resources because now we are approaching approaching infinite resources and How do like capitalism is based on scarcity and what happens when there is enough for everyone to eat? what happens when there is enough for everyone to be clothed then you have to Make scarcity art of artificial and that is what has happened We have created artificial scarcity And that is why We are driven to work 80 hours a week when we are being our most productive at any point in American history and so we you know We should be working the least amount we’ve ever worked If we were actually paid based on how much wealth we were producing But we’re not were paid on how little were desperate enough to accept and then the rest is skimmed off and given to a billionaire yeah, I Know that you grew up with Star Trek as well. I Like to think of it as full Star Trek socialism is the goal. I Want to get through a few more these questions quickly if we can Hi, my name is Lupita. Hi, I’m Amir. We are the radical monarchs from East Oakland. Hey Are you wearing Girl Scout masks? Yes, what is oh nice Oh, um our question is what advice would you give to young girls of color who want to get into politics? The advice that I give is stop trying to navigate systems of power and start building your own power So I so I’m from I represent Queens and I was recently I was recently doing a town hall with girls who code and What I told them was that you know There are so many subconscious forces that make us try to act like somebody else and that’s why it was important And I’ve discussed it. So I was important for me to you know, wear hoop earrings to my swearing in because We’re taught that You like when you’re a woman of color? there are just so many things about you that is just like Non-conforming, you know like My I happen to have been You know, that’s what I’m saying. Looks like I haven’t I’ve been born with straight hair, but my niece’s have like throws right? and so down to that there are places where like you have to like make more space and and we’re taught to like like put our hair back and be small and and articulate in a certain way and you know be square and essentially try to try to do an impression of power which has really our subconscious signals to try to act like white men and And so It’s down to how you’re how you are kind of forced or or encouraged to speak The idea that some ways of speaking are less legitimate The idea that some ways of dressing are less legitimate or you know instead we don’t say legitimate. We say unprofessional And so that if you say a or if you say my momma or whatever it’s unprofessional but even if you’re producing the same result or the same quality of work you somehow scene is less than and so So stop trying to navigate those systems because they weren’t built for you. And we need to build our own systems and recognize So We’re out of time but I in light of how long the line is. I do want to do like a rapid fire So yeah Keep your questions short and your I’ll try to keep my answers do a little bit shorter than we need for a few more people so, my name is my kind of software company here in Austin majority of my staff or women about 15 and In last election a couple months ago I noticed a lot of them actually then go to vote and It really annoys me as somebody who’s actually from Iran from the country that is not easy to go You know find a good Canada to to vote for So as an American, I want to tell you guys that Please go vote Yes, it matters every single one of them matters How do I encourage my own staff Majority of them again younger recent Gras. How do I encourage them to go votes? Tell them to run? Thank you You gotta tell them to run you need to tell them to start participating even in small things like school boards and City Council’s and things like that because I’ve had elections where I didn’t want to I didn’t Want to vote I didn’t want to vote because I was like, this is not a good set of options And so the answer is to get them to run Yeah, my name is Austin incised I’m from Norway and it’s very interesting to have a European perspective and seen from afar what your country’s going through I’m writing about I’m working down in Alabama in a diner and What has changed? Europe in the last century was more unions labor unions than tax policies here in the u.s is a lot of folks focus on tax policies and these women in my diner they not organize their a minimum pay they work by the hours and They don’t even think about organizing they just you know, hope that they will get an extra hour work. How are you gonna help people? Like them you don’t really you know, they do don’t really fight for themselves I’m surprised by the submissiveness and second question here is when you hear the word socialism in the US People would said this morning Howard Souls socialism What you talk about is Venezuela in Europe when we hear their word socialism. It’s what? Scandinavia is spilled on even though you might call it social democracy I’m just wondering why don’t candidates on the left here talk more forcefully about yes, there is a model There’s the Nordic model in Europe. That’s a scandinavian model Norwegian model Swedish model Instead of letting folks use Teach the people that what you’re talking about, that’s Venezuela. So so I’ll start with the first half of your question which has to do with organizing and one of those things is because We have been taught that we don’t matter In a lot of different Subconscious ways. We’ve been taught that if you make $15 an hour, You don’t matter they’ve been taught that if you’re poor you don’t matter taught if you’re a person of color living in a community You don’t matter and when you internalize and feel like you don’t matter you don’t do anything to change your lot because you don’t matter because who cares but so the core is really changing our idea of ourselves that we matter and that our Worthiness is not based on an external condition. Our worthiness is intrinsic to being a human being on this planet and If you are alive and a human then you are worth dignity and that is I think the the core tenets of organizing that Needs to and is starting to in my belief awakened across the country. That’s what we saw with teachers in, West, Virginia That’s what we saw in teachers in LA That’s we’re starting to see that’s why this is becoming the year of the strike because people are starting to say wait a second. I Matter and my dignity is not up for negotiation with your second question about Why we don’t defend social democracy and from these bad faith attacks. I think it’s because there’s a lot of people that don’t want us to have a social democracy and they are in government and they are also in the Democratic Party and You know and I’m not allowed to say that I’m gonna get in a lot of trouble when I go back to work But It’s you know, I think that there are parts of it that are true There’s a lot of people it’s no secret in government that go on this rotating door And you would think that when someone leaves government? they would go and go back into a different form of public service that they would become a professor or They would organize a community or they would work with unions But now when politicians leave government They go and work for lobbyists and that tells you everything about the coordinated interests that are in cahoots All over regardless of party. It’s just you know, I guess the industries tend to be a little more partisan and so so I think that there’s just Some people that don’t want to defend it There’s some people that want to quiet down this idea even within the Democratic Party And then blame it on their constituents say, oh, you know, they won’t vote for that. It’s because we don’t fight for it. I Think this has to be the last one. Oh This is so nice It’s good to see you all I can’t take selfies with everyone keep in mind but Here’s what I think’s going on. I want ask the question in two ways as you may know I’m a white guy I belong to two unions But I think I think the problem on both sides is fear. Yep People are afraid people of my ancestry are afraid of having to pay for everything when as immigrants come into this country People who are come in the people who work at the diner in Alabama are afraid to try to ask for what is reasonable So do you have a plan? to work with people in Congress that are afraid and I think that’s what’s going on with many of the conservatives Especially when it comes to climate change people are just afraid of what will happen If we try to make these big changes and I remind everyone Article 1 section 8 Clause 8 of the US Constitution refers to the progress of science and useful arts So when we address climate change We’re gonna have clean water access to the Internet and renewable electricity for everyone on earth. Let’s go So I think one of the keys to dismantling fear is Dismantling 0a0 some mentality So that I think is a really important part of dismantling fear. So what what does that mean? It means the rejection outright of the logic that says someone else’s game Necessitates my loss and that my game must miss necessitate Someone else’s lost that my gain must come at the cost of another person we are increasing our capacities for productivity and so there is we can give without a take is Where we’re going through technologically and when we say you know this idea of how you’re going to pay for it this idea that that there is a person that pays that pays for it instead of you know, we’re viewing reviewing progress as a cost instead of as an investment and Investments the difference between a costs and investment is that an investment yields returns? And when we choose to invest in our systems, we are choosing to create wealth We are choosing to create wealth and we invest in when we all invest in them then the wealth Gets them the wealth is is for all of us – and so I think part of dismantling The fear is dismantling a zero-sum mentality, but you know It’s not it’s not just about like this idea of who are our decision-makers. It’s that we like this is us This is about voting. This is about the conversations that were having with our elected officials Because I go there and whether it’s true or not, they blame all of it on you guys they do I Go and I’m frustrated and I’ll say why are you why did you weaken this? Environmental thing and they say my community doesn’t want that It’s my district, you know, man Like it’s my district and no one else like knows what anyone else’s community is like so they’re like, oh wow, that’s weird. Okay and and Because no like I’m to this day I’ve never heard a person person actually like level with me and be like listen My main donors are fossil fuel people and I just can’t no, but even in like the candor of an honest conversation no-one’s no one has said that to me no one has ever said to Me listen, you know, I’ve got these really big donors and to be really honest with you. This is why I can’t do that but we all know it that’s what’s happening and And everyone blames it on their on their electorate and when our electorate isn’t speaking up Then they’re allowed to get away with that But when we decide to participate in this system and what I talk about is not just in the on season which is election time but when we Raucous Lee participate in our system in the off season in the Vernon’s time. We participate in our own Self-governance not just our own elections, but our own governance when we see what bills are coming to the floor we show it to the gallery in DC when we when we pick up the phone and call our Congressmen as much as we call our local, you know Chinese spot for take-out like that’s the kind of relationship We need to have because once we start getting vocal they can’t get away with the excuse of my district doesn’t want that anymore and One last thing about fear you know is I want to talk one thing You know in the contrast to fear is is to tell you something about courage Because the thing about courage is that courage is self-propagating courage begets courage So the first person who stands up has to encounter the most amount of fear and discomfort But once that one person stands up it becomes Immensely easier for the second person in the third and the fourth until it doesn’t take any courage at all To stand up for something or to do something and so what I would say, is that the biggest Antidote to fear is to when you see someone that is being fearful is to choose to be the person that is courageous to show other people what courage looks like to be the first person in the room to say That’s not right or to be the person in the room You know when when you’re there’s this conversation the conversation starts to get taken over with fear-mongering With like Venezuela this and this and whatever is to say, you know What like the thing about fear is that it’s it’s all designed to get you to run away from something and It’s not a plan fear is not a plan and But courage is a plan courage is this is what we’re gonna do. This is where we’re gonna go This is what I’m going to stand up and this is the action that I’m going to take courage is about our future and fear is just about anxiety And if you’re sick and tired of being an anxious nation, then you have to just be rejecting fear outright We can’t allow ourselves to be governed by fear anymore We can’t allow ourselves to be governed by that kind of rationale to say I’m not gonna allow fear to control me anymore I am going to stand up and do the courageous thing You




Comments
  1. AOC simply has the wisdom and courage to tell the truth in a nation built on lies… Thank you Congress Member Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez… This is real hope, we can bring real change

  2. More identity twaddle, and a smidgeon of real policy and politics. No wonder the Republicans will keep on killing in the foreseeable future. It's a real shame.

  3. World wide problems need world wide solutions it is time to abolish the billionaire class worldwide

  4. Automation does not take jobs, it merely increases production. If it weren't for automation, many mechanics, electricians, fabricators, welders, forklift drivers and truck drivers wouldn't have jobs. To think Automation takes jobs is absurd.

  5. 56:56
    I've been thinking about this a lot recently. It doesn't make any sense for it to be a bad thing when less work is required.

  6. Hahaha, this young Woman… Truly is an Idiot, talking in circles…
    Look at her body language, and her dragging in her words, she’s reaching for answers somewhere out of our Galaxy… hahaha

  7. She talks like she’s talking to children from around 12-15yr olds
    So embarrassing…
    Hahahahaha

  8. Alexandria is very informed on what's really going on in the political system. That's why people love her. She tells the truth and most politicians do not!! Her supporters are average people who work for a living. Most politicians work for people who give them large donations. These are the large companies like Monsanto and the oil companies who are threatening our very existence!!! It's inexcusable what these companies are getting away with!! All for the mighty dollar and power to do whatever they want. She is saying NO to all this. Thank Goodness!!!!! She is a threat to these companies and so is Bernie Sanders!!! She worked for Bernie and we all have to ban together to vote for him. I believe that Alexandria and Bernie have the American people's best interest at heart. She is wonderful!!!!

  9. AOC; the REAL "Authoritarian Of Congress" …. she aint a bartender ANYMORE… but Trump is STILL just "acting".. politics is NOT a game-show & u shouldn't b able to just BUY your way in. i believe she's worked hard to get to where she is & the girl DEFINITELY deserves all the praise that she gets! 😁👍 🏆💕⭐

  10. You can be a moderate and see a 70%marginal tax rate is a fascist policy. We want nerds, not socialist bartenders. Speaking of, look at all the delusional ppl in the comment section🤣

  11. Cauliflower is now racist. Liberals thought Sarah Palin was stupid. Palin is brilliant compared to this woman.

  12. Fabulous motivational talk wish she was over here (UK especially now) as an older woman, the passion and courage is just inspiring and we may have a chance for this planet, our poor and disenfranchised. Most importantly she is galvanising our young people.

  13. the crack in the system AO is that you were able to squeeze through via automation via your handlers, you still have nothing for the majority

  14. "We view cynicism as an intellectually superior attitude and we view ambition as youthful naivete, when we think of the greatest things we have ever accomplished a s a society have been ambitious acts of vision. And the meh is worshipped now for what? Like for what?" A.O.C

  15. OMG, capitalism is based on scarcity? Capitalism is a byproduct of the Industrial REvolution, a result of mass production, the world has never seen the level of abundancy we enjoy. The danger of OAC, and it is why she can only speak in friendly platforms is that her utopic propositions must disconsider facts and history. She cannot debate anyone with a modicum knowledge of history. Never in history the majority had access to goods as we do, and access to prosperity as we do. However, throghout history men and women had to work hard to prosper, as it is predicted even in the Bible, we shall live by the sweat of our bodies. There is no free lunch in this world. Get this into your head socialist.

  16. AOC, you are a remarkable young woman; more power to you lady! We are so used to being "bullshitted", by our "Bullshitter and Chiefs", and the Agents and Handlers around them! It's been going on for decades. WE are getting CONNED, by both Establishment Parties. Everyone knows it, but people just shrug their shoulders. AOC is calling out those locked in the Hierarchy, and yet we still get idiots trying to take her down. American Political System is so corrupt all the way into the Courts and MSM, (Mainstream Media).

  17. I’m only on my 17th minutes into this interview and already she has revealed “the awful truth” she’s saying that Americans have settled for 10% above garbage and that’s what’s in the WH

  18. No freaking way! There is a real human in our government! I've heard a politician speak in front of camera with talking like one. She really answered the question. WOW Keep it up AOC

  19. You refer to white hispanic as in Spaniards (european Spanish) or any person with white european background who speaks Spanish as first language?

  20. Wow she uses her hands pretty alot and how she talks sound like Charles Manson.

    And she is a worthless person.

  21. Loca Cortez you are such a losers you are playing the free gifts to all the losers like you that's want to stay home and to get free free free
    No way.
    What you don't go to Venezuela or Cuba there you're belongs
    Horse Face ugly Cortez F you

  22. 43:52 is everything. This is how we help evolve the discourse and reach across to those with different viewpoints. Or at the very least know when to let something go.

  23. On the surface AOC is seems different than most politicians but when she actually talks about policy which she rarely does, her idea's are insane, childish and devious. Listening to her reminds me of the assembly in grammar school where we listened to 6th graders running for school president making all kinds of promises they could never keep, we all applauded and voted for the most popular kid or best liar and it was all meaningless.

  24. It is hypocritical of ACO & others to condemn whites who opposes her political views as being white supremacists, but people of color will leave a country that is controlled by their race to live in the USA which they claim are controlled by white supremacists. People of color should accept the fact that they desire to live in white run governments because it is a cleaner, safer, easier more desirable place to live than where they came

  25. Funny that she can't tell the difference between the weather and the climate. Watch out ,for such hot heads can stir up a devastating tornadoes which will destroy much of what is good.She is insane.

  26. Economics of racism: I'm white in an Hispanic environment. In a white environment I am offered 3x the salary AND 3x the authority. Of course I have a proficiency rate of 225% while my mentors and superiors experience prosperity and raises … While only operating at 60%. One is racism and the other under producers are hidden in sexism. Both are wasteful, ingnorant, and demoralizing. Marginalized humanity hurts everyone.

  27. Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is one of only a few "real and mature human beings" in politics today. She is not on stage like some of the elder but immature statesman who believe they've found a hack for appearing as human in politics. They would tell you they are the first to develop a conscience and humane ideas/policies or they have the best ideas/plans. They who seemingly are in politics to hear themselves talk or to get a pat-on-the-back and/or somehow convince themselves of their importance.

    Where do these people come from? People like jay inslee – i get the feeling if he had no audience he would shrivel, dry up and blow away and i wish he would. He presents as a hollow shell of a man but you know, some are so easily convinced…, you just tell them you are the best. For some if you tell them often enough they will find a way to convinced themselves.

    This is America. This is where we search for the best ideas of social organization as some of the younger politicians have found on their own and now seek to engage us all in their quest for ideals in politics.

  28. my basketball has a higher iq. why does she never answer a question but only give a speech?
    now she is a public figure but when i was in college with her she was just a very load moaner who was known to be great at giving head.

  29. Soooooooooooooooooooo on mark, that it seems FDR has reincarnated to update the original New Deal to reasonably and most-comfortably fit Real Time situations, Solidly Democratic distribution and Current technologies for the entire working/middle class. 'Working' being the keyword. If AOC could run for president this time around, seems pretty easy to believe she'd win, overwhelmingly. Would be the total opposite of what we have, now, in 100% good-ways. Independence from England in the 1770's started out as an essay………

  30. Please keep talking! The more crazy stuff you come up with, the more my democratic friends are voting TRUMP 2020! 96 Trillion dollars to do the New Green Deal Agenda🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️👌🏻🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  31. She receives a salary of $174,000 per year. She just gave herself another $4500 raise. That is $84 per hour not counting the best health care benefits in the world. What a magnificent con-artist she is. She lost the Amazon deal. She has not raised the income of her voters, but she got herself an additional raise of $4500 which is another slap in the face to her voters

  32. Just her stating that NASA was underdeveloped when JFK said we'd be on the moon in 10 years shows she's so clueless about history. She's arrogant and not as half as educated as she's pretending to be. She's fear mongering because of hearing the left fear monger 24/7. How she thinks she's going to improve the economy better than Trump currently is, is a joke!!!

  33. Our WORKERS are the ONLY source of wealth produced on this continent. The 12 to 17 TRILLION dollars we produce each year is being TAKEN as the OWNERS of our time, labor, money and lives SET the prices, Freeze our wages , BUY our once free media, advertise and install their operatives into our state, federal, and judicial governments and APPOINT coin operated DICTATORS to destroy what our refugees and orphans, escaping the Dark Ages of the Old World,. have risked being stoned to death, burned at the stake, or nailed to a cross to create here in the new world,

  34. New technology creates new jobs. Its as easy as that AOC. Electricians didnt exist. Robot engineering didnt excist. Just to make a couple obvius examples.

  35. You LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC VOTERS don't actually BELIEVE All her BULLSHIT? Or do you? CORTEZ KNOWS there is NO CHANCE her ridiculous policies will ever become LAW or PASS anything!! Meanwhile she makes $225,000 a YEAR with Cadillac benefits & her VOTERS are on WELFARE!!! WAKE UP LIBERALS!! WAKE UP, she is making ASSHOLES out of ALL of YOU!!

  36. CORTEZ makes $225,000 a YEAR with the best BENEFITS in the WORLD!! And her VOTERS are on WELFARE, SSI ,SEC 8, FOOD STAMPS ,ETC.. WAKE UP LIBERALS, she is making ASSHOLES out of ALL of YOU!!

  37. Only LOOSERS want to LIVE off the RICH and the GOVERNMENT!! Get a JOB, CAREER, BUSINESS!! This is AMERICA you LIBERAL BUMS!!

  38. The Intercept could please report on US and accomplice in crime UK's illegal occupation of Diego Garcia , Chagos Archipelago in the Indian Ocean.
    After brutal ethnic cleansing of inhabitants plus gassing of their dogs alive by US soldiers.

  39. Amazing how AOC uses intelligent verbiage to baffle us with psycho babble that floors anyone can speak a word intelligent meaningful english
    She confuses sound reasoning with whimsical expression. But inspite of her inadequate explanations, people understand what is really common awareness.

  40. AOCD should go back to being a waitress. Once she can master that skill, then, she might have enough life experience..

  41. AOC is a latin American supremacist, several interviews revealing how superior she feels people of not white descent are.

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  43. Always On Crack is the gift that keeps on giving. How can there be so much stupid in one person? She’s a dumbass even for a clueless millennial. Terrified of a garbage disposal. 😂😂 What a toddler.

  44. Now everybody has a job and there are more jobs than people to fill them. Sounds terrible. If we just decrease the number of jobs then there will be equality of number of jobs and number of employed…I think, right? Like, I don't know, like, and it upsets me, you know? Like that's what I'm saying. And, uh, meh.

  45. That was so intoxicating to watch. She has opened my eyes to so many things. Thank you for being so courageous AOC. You are a brilliant and beautiful woman.

  46. Alexandria Ocacia-Cortez: Her name is her name; have respect! She and her forthright colleagues can't be dismissed, shunned or excluded! She speaks the truth as revealed in this interview. American public better pray hard she continues to do so even while Nancy Pelosi tries to silence the new members of The House.
    To win the 2020 Presidential election the Democratic platform, I suggest, will have to be moderate and centrist. In the meantime, our country needs to hear daily from those who have courage and are loyal who will remind us repeatedly of the democratic values of our Founding Fathers. Hopefully, these voices can drown the despotic tweets & conduct of 45 who creates an abominable, tattered & torn U.S. government from the inability to responsibly govern, as he seeks to cover it all over with threats to take the U.S. to war over paper tiger conflicts that need to be addressed and grappled with through the hard work of diplomacy.

  47. Can she open her mouth and not sound like a complete moron?🤔 However, every time she does speak, Trump 2020 gets another 100 or so votes!🤣 Keep it up AOC I need all the comic relief I can get…

  48. i'm from italy and it's the first American politician I can say I admire. She's such an inspiration…. amazing human being…

  49. If Dr NYE is there, than it's serious. The Petro dollar is killing the progress of renewable energy. That's where the fear comes in.

  50. Bullshit speech. She talks about Capitalism like its an evil disease but complains when she doesnt get a raise for her $175,000.00 a year salary. She could live off of $50,000.00 like most of America does- Like a true socialist give it up for the greater good. She is full of shit just like the cows that she wants to get rid of for their methane:

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