5 Ridiculous Victorian Etiquette Rules | What the Stuff?!



hi yes Miss Havisham but let me introduce the topic by pointing out that in London it's not the custom to put the knife in the mouth for fear of accidents all cultures have their own unique customs for etiquette and protocol they usually seem strange from the outside but normal on the inside but from the 1830s to 1901 the culture of Great Britain and the British Empire came under the influence of Victorianism named after Victoria the reigning queen at the time the Victorian era is infamous for exhausting expectations of piety and man early behavior that is not usually considered necessary to fill the mass to its utmost capacity oh I'm so interested you'll be glad that nobody cares if you follow these five Victorian etiquette rules today unless they do in which case you have our sympathies are you a lady well hope you like wearing lots of constricting and cumbersome gear because yes it's totally expected of you you probably know the Victorian era was a high time for corsets it may give you the shape you decided liked but you might not realize how far this tight lace obsession went corsets weren't just for high society ballrooms in royal court they were everywhere corsets were so common that you find women wearing them in work houses and prisons and believe it or not the word maternity corset refers to a real thing that real pregnant ladies put on their torsos also popular during the Victorian era or crinoline which were stiff domed cages designed to hold women's skirts out in the wide radius away from their legs you can probably imagine the loss of agility you experienced when wearing a six foot wide steel birdcage under your dress in other words you can't fight crime in a crinoline and of course there were plenty of rules about what to wear and when such as which kind of dress you wore to each different occasion and how long you had to wear black after the death of a family member fashion police like these made you want to call a lawyer not treat your – to know the perils of battering quick think of all your friends do you know exactly how many levels below the Queen and the Archbishop of Canterbury each one resides in terms of social rank no such ill grace would never fly in Victorian England see in Victorian times you couldn't just like walk right up and talk to somebody you had to be introduced first and who got introduced to whom depended on the order of precedence a system of social ranking so you'd introduce a lower ranking Baron to a higher ranking Duke and not the other way around fool and you can't do this flawlessly unless you know the rank of everybody in your social circle and frankly that just sounds exhausting constantly comparing your acquaintances like their poker hands just to see what beats what and then there's the issue of how to address everybody I forgot is Jimmy the right honorable or of the most noble so imagine you're an unmarried lady out for a stroll in 19th century London well first of all you better not be alone that's right you need an escort but what happens if you see a man you recognize well first of all he is not allowed to talk to you unless you make a gesture of recognition first which okay I can kind of see the appeal of that you don't have to pretend to be doing something on your phone to avoid making eye contact etc but let's see you really want to stop and talk to this guy well you can't or at least you shouldn't if you want to talk to him instead of stopping you can offer him your hand which he can take but only after lifting his hat using the hand farthest away from you then once he takes your hand he has to walk along with you but even then you can't just gab away according to castles household guide strict reticence of speech and conduct must be observed in public and that means no loud talking or animated discussions and if you see a gentleman you'd like to speak to but he's smoking a cigar tough luck sister it's amazingly rude for a man to smoke in the presence of a woman so if you acknowledge him he'll have to put out his cigar and for all you know it might have been a really expensive cigar and now you've just ruined his morning nice work Myrtle can't be away do you ever have that problem where you want to date the neighbor's daughter but you don't know she's technically on the market yet or her parents still consider her a child will you marry me fucking no good because that's amazingly creepy fortunately the Victorians had a formalized system for avoiding this problem presentation at court if you are a respectable family who wanted to announce that your son or daughter was ready for courtship you could do this at a specialized event young men could be introduced at events called levies which were held several times a year young ladies could be introduced at presentation events held at st. James's Palace and these events did not skimp on the pomp and protocol either men had to wear buckled shoes and sports ladies had to stick feathers in their hair and drag 3-yard trains behind their dresses but once the kids are ready to start dating that's when the etiquette things really sink in I imagine the since your change of fortunes would naturally change your companions yes naturally lots of parents get weirdly strict and judgmental when their kids start dating thanks a lot mom and dad but Victorian England really took it to another level first of all etiquette manuals of the time advise young lovers that technically you're supposed to look for partners only within your own social class because we all know how awkward it is when you're a Baroness and you're trying to chat up a nice Viscount and his mother is just right there on the fainting couch looking at you with eyes that say trash now even if you can't get a nice courtship going you're gonna have to deal with the elephant in the room which is let's face it people marry bum money and social status you think you're better than me not Victorian England operated under the law of prima janitor which meant that when all moneybags passed away his entire estate went to the oldest son so it was just kind of expected that eligible ladies would see coldest sons meanwhile young nobleman with Troubled Assets would try to court rich Eris's sometimes from a lower social rank say the daughter of a highly successful crinoline merchant on top of all these awkward expectations the courtship itself had more chaperones in a middle school dance and young couples could never expect to be left in privacy basically until they were married oh and here's another one pop quiz what do wild turkeys mule deer and Merrill young ladies in Victorian England have in common they all have a season for hunting young men looking for ladies to court would search its social events during the season which lasted from January through June if a lady didn't find a husband after three seasons everybody knew it was spinsterhood for Agnes what's one etiquette custom you hate being expected to follow or what's one that you wish people would pay more attention to and if any one have a suitable match for Agnes let us know in the comments and if you like this video would you kindly click on yonder button and then subscribe and if you want to learn more about Victorian customs check out ten ridiculous Victorian etiquette rules and howstuffworks.com courtship etiquette some of us a courtship manigott




Comments
  1. love the rule about not talking to a lady before she acknowledges you. we live in equal society any half decent lad understands that and will never do that to a woman on her own

  2. The social ranking still exists. It may not be as bad as in Victorian times, but it still exists. The London season is in full gear right now, and rank matters. There is actually a Book of Precedence used to this day

  3. Tom hiddleston voice

    knock knock
    Ah, my lady, I came expecting your father, and yet I am greeted with a far lovelier sight indeed.

  4. Although proper etiquette may be a thing of the past, there were some good common sense rules about it back then. Some of them are needed again.

  5. First of all, a lot of these were incorrect. As a historical costumer and experienced seamstress, I have studied every form of corset, stays, crinolines, ellipticals, bustles and hip pads. I have studied Henrician , Georgian, Regency(sub period of Georgian, hence the prince regent) Victorian, and Edwardian. But, since this is Victorian, I’ll stick to that.

    1.Corsets were not invented to restrict the waist. They were a form of support that came into existence right after Georgian stays.
    2. I have never once in my life seen a woman walking around in a six foot crinoline. They existed, sure. But I can guarantee that those were mostly worn by the highest classes at the most respectable occasions.
    3. I see she uses Pride&Prejudice as an example. I love that movie, but wrong period. This is regency/Georgian, AKA the very early 1800s. And, as a fact, I can say that the Victorian period did not start until 1837, and ended in 1900. In a matter of years, many things changed.

    I’m no historian, but when I become obsessed with something, the facts become ingrained. Hope this didn’t sound too nerdy and snobby. PEACE ✌️

  6. What is sad…is that several of the clips which are being shown…are actually from the Regency era…and had nothing whatsoever to do with 'Victorian England'!…. Such a shame when someone who is giving out information from an Historical point of view…. is not aware of the actual time frame they are referring to! Queen Victoria was born during the Regency era… but…Victorian England only began after she actually sat on the throne…. 1837!…

  7. You know, I really think you people need to do your research. First of all, things like corsets and skirt hoops had nothing to do with Victorian rules of etiquette –it was simply the fashions of any given few years. Another thing you screwed up on is assuming that the entire Victorian era (63 years) had the same fashions. The items you mention were fashionable in the mid to late Victorian era. Victoria started to rule in the early 1830's but the hoop skirt wasn't fashionable until the 1860's. You are confusing fashion with etiquette which are two entirely different things. Do your fucking homework! The only thing ridiculous here is your presentation.

  8. With my shoddy memory and lack of luck; if I had to introduce someone I would probably end up offending a ball room full of aristocrats 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣🤣🤣

  9. You mean Victorian upper classes/ rich .

    I don't think Cotton Mill workers had the luxury of cage dresses or having the men working with you put their cigars out when they speak to you .

    You weren't polite when you lost your fingers ethier .

  10. It would behoove you to have images of the period of which you are speaking…that is, the Victorian period. Unless, of course, you are speaking of manners in general from all bygone eras. So get to it–spit-spot!

  11. When I was 23, I was taking care of this old man… and he asked if i was married, and I said no. He basically said I should be pretty worried because I was becoming a spinster 🤣. AT 23 SON! I laughed so damn hard, and he was totally serious.. looking at me like I was crazy, because I couldn't stop laughing.

  12. I wish there were 'live' corset and petticoat shops. Trying to buy proper ones off of the internet is incredibly annoying. I also wish that these 'coming out parties' still happened.

  13. not every o e followed these rules back then it was JUST the RICH that tended to do so and even then some time not

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