2019 Kia Niro EV First Impressions; Honda Fixing Its CR-V's Troubled Engines | Talking Cars #205



we give our first impressions of the all-new 2019 all-electric Kia Niro Evy we talk about the latest developments in the Honda CRV engine oil dilution issue and we answer audience questions including what happened to the spare tires next on talking cars [Applause] [Applause] hi and welcome to the show I'm Jennifer stock burger I'm Ryan pezzulo Kowski and I'm John linka so we're gonna jump right into some news this is a topic that many of you have certainly reached out to us about which is the dilution of oil in Honda CRVs with gas manifested from anything as simple as people smelling fuel in the cabin to some drivability issues stalling stuttering things like that it was obviously uncommon for Honda to have you know serious issues we certainly saw in our reliability and Honda did reacting that they're now repairing in them took a while I will say and it started with the cold weather sedates it seemed to be you know a cold weather issue or they said it was so named Minnesota North Dakota South Dakota Wisconsin we're getting fixes and then it started in two other states our reliability saw it in warmer states as well but the news is they're kind of giving owners a little bit of extra time John if you want to summarize yeah it even was something that reached into China at first I was a whole discussion that China had some kind of action but it's not the same as a recall in United States and you can't say apples apples so like you said 21 cold-weather States 239,000 vehicles are eligible for a fix I'm sorry this is a 1.5 liter turbo okay so it's it's the 1.5 liter turbo which is a new engine for Honda it applies to certain 2017 and 18 CRVs also the 16 to 18 Civic so same engine which our viewers asked us Ryan that's the thing you know a lot of people contacted us about it we did get verbatim xand Commons from people who said they were experiencing it foamy the gas smell as well yeah I mean it's it's good that they're finally doing something you can't really give him a pat on the back for doing something considering it was it was since the last fall is when it really kind of look and we have an episode about that extending the warranty they're going to send the warranty the repair involves new software for the engine transmission oil change possibly replacement air-conditioning control unit right extended warranty you know my legitimate which I thought was in exactly six years but no mileage so so certainly if you have those and you experience any of those symptoms certainly take it in yeah you know and like you said we saw in warm weather so it's obviously some kind of tolerance it's not just cold yeah I think people are shocked I mean it's Honda and known for reliability but stuff like these little headaches this can happen to any car company even the most reliable car company it doesn't mean Honda's a bad car company now this was kind of a new engine for them and it's a little bit of headache in particular can happen when it's new right yeah new technology and there are some thoughts about whether it should I mean that right now it is not a recall but if a car is stalling while it's running John I know certainly our policy folks have said some things about yeah I mean you know quote from our policy people we're glad there's a free fix available but vehicles are stalling and some people have said that you know they should they should have an official recall because it doesn't expire you know a technical service bulletins a a free fix will contact you you you come in the dealer those types of things expire recall will be open forever right not a mileage limit not a a time limit is age of vehicle right and and as we were covering this we did reach out to Honda and they said the following abnormal oil dilution remains extremely rare especially outside of extremely cold weather in extreme and rare cases in the cold-weather States where abnormal oil dilution has occurred prior to a vehicle receiving the software updates this extension will provide extra time for any undetected engine damage to become apparent and be covered by the warranty even in our data and then it's still it's a serious issue but it has been relatively rare for the CRV you know and it made big news because it was yeah it is rare we have still maintained our recommendation on the car because it's not a ton of vehicles that has affected but if it does affect you certainly reach out and it's not to minimize it in the sense it's important if it happens to you right any of these things are are important to have yes to you a new car yeah and you certainly understand that yeah but as far as the recommended chango's and like to the reliability it is minor in the world of crv sold so that leads me to kind of a little bit of our news in that because small SUVs are so incredibly popular both new and used we looked back to kind of make a small list of those that were particularly good and reliability road test score the idea being they could depreciate out but still have plenty of life left in them because of their reliability record so specifically 2016 look at the show notes and little drive it back to our list there's others obviously that that work this was kind of a small list so Ryan why don't you give us kind of your thoughts on anything that's on that small list so I took a look at this the Mazda cx-5 is gonna be the pick for me it's the most fun to drive and I think the interiors the nicest it's a nice it's a good-looking car I certainly find in my personal life I don't know if you guys get the same like there's four cars that stand out and they may not you know that's bad for the cx-5 the Forester and the CRV that is like the quad of people call which one should I get and truly depending on what your personal preference I pick any of these can't go wrong but John did you have a particular one from from that narrow list I don't have one from the narrow list because I've actually and you get into the reliability issue so it it depends on what you want fight financially it depends on what you want reliability means you want something else that you know at these positive attributes and you're willing to go with an average reliability car Nissan Rogue this is interesting little one not the most dynamic continuously variable transmission doesn't necessarily mean enjoyment but a nicely a roomy car it works well for me the 16 on the crv again so it's before this recall right and the turbo I mean save you know the not the recall but you're you know before the engine problem right extender warranty I it's the final year of the design so it means they worked out any headaches yeah they showed up and and it's it's roomy I just like the way Honda's drive a little more than other competing products not to cx-5 it's not a still more more enjoyable yeah I like to see her be so so refer to the list take a look see if it's something you might be interested in so in keeping with the small SUVs we have a new one here at the track a little bit different the 2019 Kia Niro Evy all electric key and narrow reporting 239 miles of range we've talked about getting over that 200 mile mark to make it a practical vehicle we had tested the hybrid Nero 1.6 liter for hybrid 43 miles per gallon Ryan did you get a chance to get into I did I did I did so it's exciting like you say getting over this 200 mile hump is big it's huge for me because I have anxiety when it comes to this range anxiety and that's that's huge it becomes use a daily usable car I think because you're not you know terrified everywhere you go you have to turn on the wipers or the headlights or something and watch the mileage disappear but I thought I was pleased with it um this kind of reminded me of the Hyundai Kona Evie which is a better version of the Kona regular gas Kona I thought this is kind of in that same vein it's quieter it's got plenty of power you know the Nero e the Nero hybrid that we tested originally had that a little bit revi grainy motor sound in there and this is just a little more pleasant to drive and the controls it's got a that dial shifter that's take a little getting used to but the controls everything's pretty simple and I like that it's not a you know not getting into like a Tesla or you have to learn this whole crazy screen this is it's a normal car most most remote rolls are quite right user-friendly yeah John III echo I mean you know and at least a controller for example isn't some kind of weird monostable where it's you know you I'll just do that you don't wear it springs back to the center so you'll never sure exactly what gear you're in do that and it's what it identifies it and right in this plant you can't miss hit right you know you you're in a reverse drive or Park you're not in a weird new torreón like that I like the conventional control I like conventional eby's you know I like the Jaguar for all I pays for all of its ills more so than a Tesla Model 3 I personally am NOT a huge Tesla fan with the screen yeah when the screen goes bad you can't do a single thing HVAC and such yes there's resets but resets don't always work as we know with phones computers etc it isn't super quiet if see it's it's quick you sit up high you know I do like it but yeah last night with the cold weather or you know hit the hit the heater ten miles comes off immediately I arranged you know a see does the same thing so but at 239 I also didn't I didn't I wish they just kept the traditional shifter that we had had in the hybrid zero yeah it just one you know I won't say gimmick but it was just different enough that I didn't care for it you have to look to make sure you're in that gear I do think – Ryan's point at compensated one of the things we didn't like about the hybrid was this lag that it had the all-electric takes all that away seamless the only thing yes and it was $47,000 that took my breath away Chuck just to qualify the hybrid was 26 another 21 to me yes it is a better car not worth $21,000 so so think of it in some ways yeah if you buy it and you have a tax liability you know right 7,500 it leasing though more and more leasing of these for a number of reasons you know technology you may not want to buy and be stuck into a the technology as it mm-hmm fledgling industry that's it's venting at a rapid rate weight rate excuse me so yeah you lease it and the dealer so you lease it for two or three years and the dealer adds that tech they take the tax credit themselves but they incorporate into the depreciation so now you have a pretty low cost yes you have to worry about 10,000 and 12,000 miles or what you know whatever release would be feel that's a possibility flying it out right yet that's a lot that's a lot of chatter for a small relatively smallest really it this whole you know and we have a lot of V's now we have a lot more coming brought to mind a thought I was having is I'm a person who like Cimiez but I like them to feel like they're not v's and I don't want them to sound funny I don't want them to have brake regeneration touchy brakes I want them to be Eevee's but as traditional as possible and I'm I'll be interested to hear what certainly our audience thinks of do you want your Eevee to be evey ish right or not do you want the ones I like the best like you said the kkona are the most traditional and operation so I don't like when they change the shifter I want it all traditional I found that the brakes a little weird when it was cold right there was a bite they'd all of a sudden just really grabbed me and then I would try to do that and they obviously they warmed up right you know the rotors a pet whatever the system was and I couldn't replicate that during a drive but then you park it do it again yeah strengths no it'll be interesting so stay tuned we'll be testing that comparing it of course to its non Eevee version but talking about viewer feedback and audience feedback we're gonna move to some questions we'd love them we love them we love them we only have some texted ones this week talking cars at iCloud calm I love the videos love the text so the first question is from Jose hi guys I'm a big fan of your show Thank You Jose vehicles seem to have a warning light for everything however drivers only become aware that a headlight or a brake light is out when a police officer stops them why don't government regulators focus on this critical safety issue John good point any thoughts for Jose slow down Jose don't give the police a reason to know it look some of it is my opinion the regulation creep or something like that you know I mean you know it adds costs it doesn't help older vehicles it's gonna take a long time to get older vehicles out is this the key focus I mean I would personally think that if there's going to be a modification to the federal motor vehicle safety standards it should be mandating a center head restraint right which is not then there's plenty vehicles out there that are 2009 teens or 20s that don't have that yeah if you have a safety belt for that position you think it's a seating position I would say for Jose maybe like like we say check your smoke detector every season change you know flip your mattress around every season change doing these types of maintenance things you know have someone parked the car in the garage or out in a parking space or wherever ask someone if a kid maybe make it a fun like this is how you maintain and connect great cars parked cars park you turn it on keep it in park just press on the bat and the brake pedal do you see anything Timmy Bobby Sarah whoever your your child a oh yeah you know it's not symmetrical only one so great you know do it monthly do it do it quarterly – something like that should there be a standard you know for an indicator another indicator another system if you're relying on an indicator and then there's a failure of the of the system then your says it's unlit but it slid or it doesn't I think it's one of the lower hey it's a higher hanging fruit excuse me and there's lower hanging fruit to address I think probably the redundancy you have two three I mean if you how your three gyms or a you know the highs the high mounted and the two that's a crazy but because you have to I think actually the police pull you over almost as a courtesy because they know you don't know probably and they give you a time frame usually to fix it yeah but I it also speaks to me of like getting back to the basics you know we talked about all these you know automatic emergency braking and forward collision warning which are all hugely beneficial but brake lights and headlights are back to the basics and interest rate yeah beneficial not to minimize it but right right there's there's other technologies at all right right so Thank You Jose next question is from Eric I think your truck ratings should be separated from cars especially when comparing ride quietness and comfort most trucks are not expected to compete in comfort with cars you separate electric and gas dryers how about doing the same thing with cars and trucks rate trucks compared to other trucks it would lift their scores and give truck buyers a better idea of quality so so he's right I mean we don't expect most trucks to ride as well as a you know a car or SUV but you know if you're looking at our ratings and you see a you know a car that has a 5-4 ride and now you have a truck that has a 5-4 ride yeah which was what so five what's a five so its core but what does it mean right we saw we ran into this wood tires back in the day we used to rate all our tires or in separate every category it was rated weighted separately so we had an all-season tire that would get a 5 in that group for snow traction right and then you'd have a snow tire those pairs to the other snow tire all season tires and then you had a chart next to that with actual winter tires that obviously they most of them get fives because they're meant for that right yeah but people are looking at the chart going why would I buy at all C's are a winter tire if this all season tire gets a 5 for winter traction also but it's only for that that group that's not for so and we have to put on this big universe of you know you're still comparable to other trucks but you have to it's just you know I guess the resolutions smaller you're you're looking right but it's still you can still see the difference between the you know the few truck that's why we do it yeah so I guess that moral the story is if you nothing they're showing up in different charts they might actually still be on the same scale you know like the gas dryers right electric dryer thing that's what we do a lot of stuff is on a universal scale and I would argue two things for Eric one I think the rides of some of these trucks oh they're getting better and I think I've shared my husband rides this 2012 frontier it rides horribly yeah but new trucks even new full-size pickups they ride very very well so that end they are used often like passenger cars they are not necessarily and I know we've talked about you know that they're loaded sometimes the ride settles down but they're not often loaded so interesting question from Eric so that takes us to our next questions from David in poor visibility driving conditions I get a message that my Subaru legacies eyesight system is inoperative are mine on camera based system such as BSM blind spot monitoring and our CTA rear cross traffic alert still working are there any a EB automatic emergency braking systems that work in whiteout washout conditions my son is going to college about five hours away and while I love the Subaru I'd like to have an alternate car to drive him when I know the visibility will be lousy so he's right the system are impacted by weather and I would say it's it's you're not gonna find the car right now a vehicle new or used that's going to be infallible it's actually really good that they turn off because they don't become a crutch they don't become a system where you set it and forget it sort of like you know right like like we've we've seen as in commercials inside you know in 3m for example is a company that makes a number of products but one of the things they they're working on is a film that you would put over fenders do protect the radar units and hopefully snow and ice would slide off of it that way you know it would you know you the systems would still work right yeah the short answer is no there's not a vehicle advancements are coming fast and furious but not quick enough so stop maybe use it five hours away inclement weather take a break take a coffee break all right have a self-imposed break where you you clean the sensor off because tell you what Ison stuff blocks up the window well yeah there's a great fact about there's a great piece on consumerreports.org that I wrote and spoke some people about this you know in camera washers and and stuff to keep them keep those clear but yeah use it as a brake stop take a breath take a rest break clean them off at least you know that you're doing that but rain can do it let alone snow right it's unfortunate because sometimes when you need it the most because you can't say they don't see either so I think that's the rule you can't see they probably can't see it's a camera or sometimes rater yeah it's a slow slow down yeah it's a reminder these these are aids yeah this is you still you're still responsible for drive that vehicle safely yeah it is you know these things are there to help you but so you know you have issues you know what it also shows we're nowhere in your self-driving cars thank you driving the good weather Oh Drive they worry about themselves only but we're not we're not there yet no matter what anyone say yeah just a reminder yeah advantages are still variable we got listen absolutely for the weather so last question is from Rob I am very interested in purchasing an Audi q7 which has no spare tire just an air compressor with a fix-a-flat canister I certainly don't want to be stranded on the side of the highway until tow truck arrives to tow me to a tire shop should the fix-a-flat not work do you have any statistical information that would indicate that the what the probability is of having a flat tire that is too severe for a fix a flat repair would you purchase a vehicle with no spare tire what do you think Kyodai oh man with inflator kits they kill me so to answer his first question to tically no we don't have any data on that from my personal experience actually testing these some of these kits right we there's a million different ways you can get a flat okay and there's a very good probability that these are not gonna fix that depending on the type of hole what you ran over if the object still in the tire if it came back out of the tire if you hit that you know you ruin a sidewall you're done no matter what that's all yeah you know would I purchase a vehicle without a spare tire it would depend on the vehicle you know sports car you kind of have to expect this um it's also not a car you're driving your family around and you know all the time big SUV like that I mean you're gonna really should have to consider that and it's a very good thing that he's paying attention that while he's before he's purchasing this vehicle now the brand new q7 does have run flats as a based tire option which I believe is the reason why you get that you know the flat fix the flat canister and Jack but um you can also and know you know people aren't gonna probably do this you can buy a full-size spare and put it in the back but you're taking up happier luggage space I mean what's the point of that and sure why is the spare going away what's the interest that that we're not seeing spares anyway yeah it's as simple as wait they're trying to make cars lighter for fuel economy there's such such pressure on the manufacturers to make better fuel economy numbers and take out a 50 60 pound maybe 70 pound tire wheel package out of the trunk and you got a little bit of a advantage there and then they put a the inflator kit in there doesn't way obviously nearly as much but the there's a there's a good chance you're not to be able to patch the tire with one of those I mean there's cases where it will but well one our co-workers Jeff Bartlett had that happen years ago with a Hyundai you know see talking economy car not gonna have run flats right rip the sidewall he was stuck done yeah and you're waiting like he says you know one wants to wait for the tow truck of your own you know you're on a trip or something you don't something like a q7 yet so you're looking 20 21 22 inch wheels right now I'm looking at performance ty and I'll replace those tires right now replace those the run flat to you're gonna be able to find you know trouble is sometimes finding a run flat yeah so don't to your point – I guess it matters where you think you're dry if you're in a metropolitan area you're probably gonna have an Audi dealer or someone who didn't get to you quickly if you're in a rural area very good right a very good thing know that he's paying attention to that go on into a we tell people that when you're buying a car like check it out see what see what tires come on the car right yeah because it's not and see what kind of tires come on there they might be outrageous to replace in the first place never mind you know you know hitting something in the road and please one ideas kids the inflator kids yeah no but they cool they're not but they can be because sometimes got the rotate of tire to get to the you know so the if the the wherever the hole is it on the bottom and you're trying to put the inflator stuff in there it might be the rubber might be held in a position where you can't plug it anyway and it's it's not for everyone so great question David keep them coming if you're looking for information on any of this stuff we talked about see the show notes videos questions talking cars at icloud.com that's gonna wrap it up for this episode thanks for listening thanks for watching and we'll see you next time you




Comments
  1. You people should stop mentioning Tesla out if your mouths. Only Tesla hate comes out.
    Tesla hate speech program.

  2. Just a note, there are several manufacturers that indicate when lights are out. VAG does this. My Jetta will light up a picture of a light bulb in the instrument cluster and then tell me which bulb is out under vehicle status. This is very common on European cars.

  3. I like EV regenerative braking with driver selectable forces. Shifters? I’m good with push button and other smaller formats since newer vehicles shift electronically anyway. Shifters are often in the way. Of course a set of buttons that cover just as much space is silly.

  4. I’ve been driving a bmw i3 BEV for almost 2 years now and I can tell you, it is much more intuitive to drive a none traditional EV as soon as you get used to it.

    Simply put, driving the traditional way is giving a big acceleration and controlling the drive using deceleration (brakes) while one pedal drive of electric cars is more like controlling with acceleration. You say go when you want to go. Whereas in the traditional way, once you said go, you should say stop when you wanna stop. It is much safer and under control the ev way.

    Also in case of EVs like i3 and Tesla with strong regenerative braking and good acceleration, the drive and stop is so linear that you don’t have to learn to adjust your commands to the delay of gears and revs and turbos.

    The biggest problem is the paradigm shift needed to appreciate the joy and safety of one pedal EV drive in comparison to delayed and two or three pedal drive of traditional ice cars.

    Thank you for the great work and keep it up.

  5. I recently got suckered in a 2008 Jeep Patriot, the same comment below applies to multiple/majority in my personal life experience. The same issues exist years later and even after a $1.2 billion fine, ( Mopar, Ford, your vehicle!) Learning this lead to additional knowledge resulting in Mopar’s fine replaced deteriorating highway roads, I’m sure there was a good opportunity for NH all around, flipping the coin in my current circumstances getting a loan for $13,000 with a $3,000 value to which I couldn’t seem to successfully find until I transferred my plate, why wouldn’t the people filing complaints with the BBB, NHDOT, or the loan application process actually going through at this interest, I work hard for my money!

  6. Considering all the advantages of EVs; no oil changes or tune ups, no gas station stops, few brake jobs, less moving parts, etc., but also some disadvantages, could you each say what you think the comparable value is to an ICE vehicle?

  7. As for the cameras/radars I'm very happy that Subaru's eyesight is behind the windshield as compared to hondas accord which has them under the front license plate and I believe Toyota now has a radar the same? Wouldn't take long for those to get snowed in in a storm or light flurry, and when it's safe to use the system again you'll have to pull over and wipe it off

  8. We have two smart cars, both obviously w-o spares. Each has over 100k miles and never been stranded with a flat. Except for an accident at the house, so being stranded at home isn't so bad.

  9. Please test EV'S in the winter both charging outside ( not all owners have /use garage ) so the electricity consumption used to warm batteries etc is counted towards the cost for range. Living here in SoCal my range doesn't really vary, however, your location is perfect for long term testing.

  10. A simple way to check rear tail, brake, and turn signals is turn into a parking lot aisle where the store front window is facing your rear, momentarily stop (stop lights) are visible in your rear view mirror, turn on turn signals one at a time, let off brake now you see tail lights total time 5-7 seconds.

  11. Fuck consumer report for the obvious lies, FUD and deceptions about Tesla and autopilot. Hope you go bankrupt over this.

  12. My 2008 Honda Accord with the 2.4 lt engine burns oil like it’s 1970. The car is out of the eligibility for free repair and it takes thousands of dollars to replace the piston rings!

  13. The issues with Honda may be surprising in North American but for the rest of the world not first they had major issues eg. steering, previously CVT's, and regular tranny

  14. Only in some states do dealers include any tax rebates in the lease cost – it's not a universal practice.

  15. I agree with Jose about cars not having "burn-out light" warnings. Golly, we have tire pressure sensors – what a joy those are!

  16. It's time to get some young people on these panels. I don't want my grandma/grandpa telling me about the future of vehicles.

  17. Would you put your wife, daughter, etc in a 17 18 CR-V ? Would you risk $30k on one? If the answer is yes I don't need Consumer Reports advise anymore.

  18. I am a long-time Honda fan, so this engine oil dilution issue surprises me. Worse, however, is a CR-V battery issue that I have witnessed with my neighbor here in Florida. He has been through 5 batteries in 3 years of ownership. The dealer and the company deny that this is a problem, but a survey of the internet reveals that there are a lot of customers reporting frequent dead batteries in CR-Vs. Can you expand on this issue if you are aware of it? Thanks.

  19. I have have an 88 Lincoln Town Car with the digital dash and it actually runs a check for headlamps, turnlamps and brake lamps. The beep will drive you crazy until you fix it.

  20. I think the better answer for that last question about buying a vehicle without a spare is "NO." It seems that by not giving a spare (or option to buy one) the car manufacturer is saying that saving a few pounds is more important than customer safety. Nobody wants to "feel" stranded or be put in a desperate situation when an emergency happens. Moreover, I believe that the person asking this question understood this and really wanted CR to bolster his or her decision with a definitive answer. So here's my plea to a fellow consumer… Please do not put yourself or your family at risk. There are other "safer" choices. Go "vote" with your dollars.

  21. Hey CR talk to any Tesla owners and most would never consider going ice again. Any time you can you kick Tesla why? Why not be even handed.

  22. “I want an EV that feels traditional?” EVs are innovative and not traditional! They will feel different than an ICE car. They don’t sound like they are expert at much. And the Tesla screen is super easy to use and does not break very often.

  23. I have a 2016 Honda Pilot, and it had engine issues. But I had a dishonest dealership servicing it. It wasn’t until I changed dealerships, then the issue got fixed. I will never buy a Honda again.

  24. A inflater kit? Yeah….Do you know anyone who has ever used one successfully? I have NEVER heard of a tire inflater kit/system that worked!

  25. I'm personally not a fan of weird gear selectors, such as those on the Chevy Bolt or the Toyota Prius. I'll accept removing the shifter lever for a push button system as long as it has the buttons in a vertical standard format (R, N, D, L), instead of the circular knob. Figuring out the menu on the infotainment system is difficult enough without adding complexity/confusion with gear selection also.

  26. CR panel looks so bummed out and oddly somewhat giving Honda a slide while if it was a non Japanese firm, they'd be harder on them.

  27. No sign of trouble with my CR-V. A lot of people are forming negative opinions without basis (or hate Japanese cars or something). I think CR gives great weight to consumer complaints Without investigating, and come down on companies.

  28. The discussion on the first question is interesting. It reminded me of something I noticed in my 2008 Elantra while driving in a snowstorm — there’s a spot on the dashboard for a washer fluid light, but per the manual, it’s only equipped with one on Canadian models. Apparently, a washer fluid sensor isn’t required in the U.S., and it’s not worth the added cost to include it. But all the cheap K-cars Chrysler produced in the 80s had them! They seem to have disappeared in the last 20 years, at the same time that reliability has improved and maintenance intervals have become longer, so people aren’t checking under the hood so often. Seems a little incongruous to me.

  29. My 2006 and 2012 prius didnt have a spare tire and neither does my nissan leaf 2012 this is nothing new. I just call my tow truck and they get there fast and take me to discount tire.

  30. Honda 1.5t in China gets the recall, Honda gets extended warranty when this all broke out. Honda took 6 months to add the extended warranty in the U.S.

  31. Leasing the Kia Niro EV EX was perfect for our needs and budget. We received the fed tax credit of $7,500 passed onto us by Kia plus we are getting two more California rebates (clean energy project and SCE) that total $3,500. Work provides free level 2 charging and we have a solar home now equipped with a Juicebox Pro 40 level 2 charger. This is our first EV and we weren't sure what to expect or how we would feel about an all electric car but we wanted to give it a go. We love the car, don't have range anxiety (the car is actually getting 260-270 miles in range and some are reporting they are getting closer to 300) and we are sold on electric and will only be driving EVs from now on. It is fun to drive, has good cargo space, and is super comfortable for our 6' and 6'3" frames. One other thing we like about the Niro EV is that Kia left the spare tire area open in the boot and they offer a spare tire kit, which we have ordered for our car. Call me old fashioned but I want a spare in my boot and not a can of goo that may or may not temporarily fix a flat. Love this car and looking forward to 3 years from now and our next EV… the Habeniro?

  32. Mandated features are the DEATH of the affordable car.
    I can tell whether my lights are working or not because I observe whether my night time lighting out front is even or one-sided (bad headlight). I can tell I have a bad brake light bulb b/c when I look in the rear-view mirror at a stop with someone behind me, I can see whether both sides have a bright read light reflecting back off the car behind me.
    Suggest that Jose splurge and buy a car with all LED lighting which nearly never fail, rather than suggest that the GOVERNMENT MANDATE another expense onto every vehicle sold. Please, stop asking for mandated features. END OF AFFORDABLE CARS …

  33. Also, CU needs to specify whether an EV uses resistance heat or a heat pump. Makes a huge difference in cold weather.

  34. My '98 Audi A4 had a brake lamp warning indicator and I'm pretty sure my '03 IS300 had it as well. Granted, it was the ONLY part of the A4 that worked, but I remember it going off. There are new cars that don't have it?

  35. After reading the CR report ast week on the OD, I went to the local Colorado Springs dealer asking about the getting the fix applied for my CR-V. They did pulled-up the extended warranty TSB, (dated 4/2019) but said I still had to have a CEL light (check engine) to apply fix. CR says yes they will "finally" apply fix nationwide, as I understood the report. I am not finding that to the case here in Colorado Springs
    So it is trully nationwide now or still just the 20 northern states as before? And do I have to have an indication of engine problem
    before the dealer will apply fix? That was my experience earlier this week at the Honda dealer. Thanks for your reporting CR!

  36. After reading the CR report ast week on the OD, I went to the local Colorado Springs dealer asking about the getting the fix applied for my CR-V. They did pulled-up the extended warranty TSB, (dated 4/2019) but said I still had to have a CEL light (check engine) to apply fix. CR says yes they will "finally" apply fix nationwide, as I understood the report. I am not finding that to the case here in Colorado Springs
    So it is trully nationwide now or still just the 20 northern states as before? And do I have to have an indication of engine problem
    before the dealer will apply fix? That was my experience earlier this week at the Honda dealer. Thanks for your reporting CR!

  37. No oil problems with my CR-V. I have met dozens of other owners of 2017-19 while waiting for oil changes at the dealership and have never met one person that had a dilution issue. Most of them said they had checked the oil before coming in for service and it was black and at the high end of the marker but that was the level they got it after the last oil change. Nobody has said they smelt gas inside the vehicle.

  38. I like EVs to look and drive like traditional gas cars, except for the shifter. I like the shifter from the Nissan LEAF, etc… I dont like the traditional hand shifter of gas cars anymore.

  39. All suv should have spare tires not everyone has tow membership or extra cash to get towed if fuel economy is the issue trim weight somewhere else safety is a concern not hope I have spare tire

  40. What, no comments?
    Having owned 3 turbocharged cars I have always changed the synthetic oil every 3000 miles with those engines.

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